Crimson Kings Tower

[Cuthbert Allgood]

Follow Roland on his trek of 10,000 miles, cool because these books kik ass.
Was going to add a poll about the ending but stopped due to spoillers....

[Nicolai]

The last four books were shit.

[Blargh]

Feck it all backwards ! I wish I was a gunsliner . . .

*stares into the distance, and dreams, dreams . . .*

[S4ur0n27]

This sounds like another of megatron's trick.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

The wizard in glass sucked??? u scruffy nerf herder, .You didnt find reading about mostly roland and Gilead interesting,..... waht kind of books do u read normally ?

P.s. did u read them in Norwegian or sumthing?

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

The wizard in glass sucked!!!

That's so true, definately the weakest book in the series. It wasn't too bad (but not a patch on the one's before) until Rolands love affair, then it went down hill fast, though what happened to the girl did redeem things a little. I didn't mind the ending of the series, but I'd probably never re-read it unless Wizard and Glass is revamped the same way as The Gunslinger was. I'd been following the series since The Gunslinger was first published in the UK back in the late 80's W&G nearly put me off, it's only that the last few books were released so close together that made me pick it up and finish it.

[King of Creation]

Wizard and Glass was the first book of the series that I read, so I guess it justs holds a special place. I thought was was better than I read that one first, though, because it gave me Roland's backstory and introduced some things. I felt I uderstood what was going on better when I went and read The Gunslinger and the rest of the series.

Need I remind you of how stupidly obsessed I was about the Dark Tower series? I'm stilling wondering why I bought that print, but then I realized, Oh wait..I got Stephen King and Michael Whelan to sign it, along with my first edition. It was a marketing ploy, I tell you! Having those prints right next to the signing table.

[Blargh]

No need for that, or this reminder, KoC. Ehuehuehue.

[Subhuman]

All you Dark Tower fanbois need to read Hearts in Atlantis, if you haven't already. There's a great reference to the DT universe.

[johnnygothisgun]

I thought this was a reference to King Crimson.

[King of Creation]

All you Dark Tower fanbois need to read Hearts in Atlantis, if you haven't already. There's a great reference to the DT universe.

Been there done that champ.
I've read pretty much all of King's books. If you want to know which books King has explicitly written to be connected to the Dark Tower, just look at the front pages of the Dark Tower books. Under the Author's Book List, all the Dark Tower related books are in bold. Also, there's a list of books and their connections here:

http://www.thedarktower.net/connections/


And just for the record...the Crimson King didn't have a tower. He lived in a castle, but got his ass stuck on a balcony of the Dark Tower.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

I refuse to read any more Stephen King books.
I've read the Dark Tower 1-4 and the Stand.

I attempted many others but his books are just shit.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

Hearts in Atlantis was good, AND so was wizard in glass... guess requiem missed my question marks.....
Did you like the ending King? personally i thought it was great, its like the story never ends, kind of a quick way out though.

[King of Creation]

I really liked the "real" ending (the one before final final part) from a purely literary standpoint. That ending stayed very true to the Robert Browning poem. The final ending part did seem like a kind of cop out though.

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

guess requiem missed my question marks.....

Nope I saw them but it was too good to resist misquoting you. It is the weakest of the series, and I think of all his books (that I've read) put together.

personally i thought it was great, its like the story never ends, kind of a quick way out though.

Not exactly a quick way out, it's probably the only way a series that's taken so long to write could be ended, anything else Roland might of found at the top of the tower would of been a major disappointment one way or another.

[Nicolai]

I thought that book #5 was the worst one.. I mean, callaspeak? Ugh.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

Good points Both of you, the whole calla speak thing was a little out there. But more or less the whole series isn't really about whats at the top, it's the quest that drives Roland. Think of it like the holy grail, a knights quest to find and recover, yet is the grail ever actually found?

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

Think of it like the holy grail, a knights quest to find and recover, yet is the grail ever actually found?

Yes, well depending on which version of the Arthurian tales you read. It's usually found and then taken to Avalon. I didn't mind the Calla speak, I wonder what inspired it?

[johnnygothisgun]

Think of it like the holy grail, a knights quest to find and recover, yet is the grail ever actually found?

Yes, well depending on which version of the Arthurian tales you read. It's usually found and then taken to Avalon. I didn't mind the Calla speak, I wonder what inspired it?

The popular myth is that it was found near or in the city of Sarras by Sir Bors, Sir Percivale, and Sir Galahad. I've never read that it was taken to Avalon, but hey, like you said, there's certainly more than one version of the story out there. However, if I remember correctly, the first account of the quest was written by Malory in Le Morte D'Arthur, and that's how it goes down. In T.H. White's version, as well. In fact, in every version I've ever read. Not that I'm trying to appear pretentious. Interesting take, though.

The fact remains that your counter was correct, and yes, the Grail was eventually found, although only three out of the one hundred and fifty managed to do it, and more than half of the total died in the attempt.

PS King Crimson kicks the hell out of Stephen King or whoever.

[ApTyp]

This is neither Sex nor Jet, and hardly any Rock 'n' Roll.