The Firearms Thread

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:19 pm

When the russians get on to something good (7.62x54R) they'll never let go.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:21 pm

GUNS!!

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:34 pm

gats

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:43 pm

Yeah 7.62x54r is a hell of a round especially since I got super heavy (184gr.) steel core sniper rounds developed for the draugnov rifle. I think they may be armor piercing but I'm not sure. Anyway out of my Nagant they went straight through a row of 6 poplar trees 20" in diameter. :joy:

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:06 am

May not be AP..but i'm guessing would stand up to penetrate anything up to a tank. Steel core is quite intense.

Goretheglowingone · Post by **Goretheglowingone** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:47 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Yeah 7.62x54r is a hell of a round especially since I got super heavy (184gr.) steel core sniper rounds developed for the draugnov rifle. I think they may be armor piercing but I'm not sure. Anyway out of my Nagant they went straight through a row of 6 poplar trees 20" in diameter.

yea its ap, or it was for back then, and they did that because it was cheaper to make, lead was more expensive than steel around then.

but they do make hunting rounds for the mosin nagant now, wolf ammo and bear makes some , its good ammo, i have no complaints,
but i still like my mill spec ammo i have multiple types of mill spec ammo for it to, made in different countries.

if you want to know more about the mosin nagant go to 7.62x54r.net

its a good site and a good beginning to your research on the gun.

im planning on buying a couple of nagant revolvers, their not expensive,
you can get one for about $82.00.

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:31 pm

Goretheglowingone wrote:im planning on buying a couple of nagant revolvers, their not expensive,
you can get one for about $82.00.

WHAT? THE ASSASSINATION REVOLVER THAT HAS THE CYLINDER THAT RACHETS FORWARD AND FIRES THOSE WIERD 7.62 MM NAGANT ROUNDS? PLEASE GIVE ME A LINK...

Naked_Lunch · Post by **Naked_Lunch** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:45 am

How much does a semi-automatic ak-47 go for, one of the newer models? There's some flea market going on around here soon and you can pick up some gattage there apparently and i need to know how much laundered money to bring with me

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:50 am

If it's a newer model, then it's not an AK "47" because the 47 is the year the model was invented/patented.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:46 am

Dreadnought wrote:If it's a newer model, then it's not an AK "47" because the 47 is the year the model was invented/patented.

Wrong. There was a newer AK-47 made after 52 that were different from the first 48-51 models.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:09 am

Yes, but it'd be an AK 47 AKS or one of the countless other variations. In relation to Naked_Lunch's post, it should be "A Kalashnikov assault rifle, model 47 or newer".

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:40 am

Nope, it's an AK-47. The AKS is a different model, it was introduced in 59. This is just a newer model of the AK-47.

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:55 am

Once an AK-47, always an AK-47.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:18 am

Wolfman Walt wrote:Nope, it's an AK-47. The AKS is a different model, it was introduced in 59. This is just a newer model of the AK-47.

My bad, I was meant to say AKM.
But it even emphasizes my point. There are so many variations.

An AK 74 is technically identical to an AK 47, though the wooden parts of the 47 are replaced with synthetic materials. Bla blee bloo...

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:23 am

It isn't an AKM either. It's a newer model of the AK 47 and is just named an AK-47, invalidating your statement of:

If it's a newer model, then it's not an AK "47" because the 47 is the year the model was invented/patented.

Nameless_One · Post by **Nameless_One** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:46 am

So sorry for interrupting your dialogue but if one of you guys have a pic. of this newer model of AK-47 ( Nicked with the name of ''Kalaşnikof'' in Turkish-nothing with it, I just wanted to wrote it down ) can you post it here please?

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:49 am

Strider wrote:Once an AK-47, always an AK-47.

Nameless_One · Post by **Nameless_One** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:04 am

...but dreadie wrote that some wooden parts changed with synthetic materials which is probably plastic-metal polymiers.That makes technically newer model`s balance&weight different.Through these reasons new one`s 'modelling' may be different.I am still curious about what is it looks like...

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:12 pm

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:51 pm

Wolfman Walt wrote:It isn't an AKM either. It's a newer model of the AK 47 and is just named an AK-47, invalidating your statement of:
If it's a newer model, then it's not an AK "47" because the 47 is the year the model was invented/patented.

AK-74 is different caliber even, it's chambered in 5.45 iirc.

How about every assault rifle is a Stg43 eh? Who cares, really, as long as it makes big holes.