Icewind Dale

[Patrick]

patrick we already know everything there is to know about black isle rpgs so there is no need to try to inform us.

It seemed Old So It looked Informable.

what the hell is it with your random capitalization of words? dysgraphia? dyslexia? weird understanding of syntax? ironic (ugh) stab at the reader? it's really darn difficult to look at

LoL I dUnNo. u WnT 2 bUtTfUx??

[POOPERSCOOPER]

Sieg Heil

BG2 is a good game

I tried playing it a few weeks ago but the magic and shit just got too confusing for me and I would die a lot, it has like a billion spells and I didn't feel like trying to put the time into it to learn the ins and outs.

[Thor Kaufman]

The spell system is indeed a bit dumb, most of the spells are rather shite.
I usually just buffed up my fighters with defensive spells and haste and hacked my way through the monsters.

I cast magic missile

[Smiley]

at the darkness?

[edhead]

I'd rather waste my time on feeding pigeons than play a piece of shit like IWD. It took me about 15 minutes to see it for what it is: generic and hack&slash fantasy adventure to the bone, which is exactly what I hate.

Plancescape was absolutely extremely ultra fucking mega dao zen bueno though. Definitely recommended for storyline and dialogue whores such as me. Therefore, I shall recommend it for myself and replay it once again.

[Smiley]

Let me guess, you review games for a living, right?

"Game was not to my liking, therefore it is a piece of shit".

[edhead]

"Game was not to my liking, therefore it is a piece of shit".

Exactly. You have to admit: DAC is not an internet's sanctum for reserved statements and objective RPG gameplay analysis. And repetitive EXP grinding featuring a petty excuse for a story in the background, D&D style, is not a great game in my book.

[Smiley]

So you spent more than those 15 minutes, in fact you've finished the game and at the end of it, it was exactly as you concluded in the beginning.

Also, you've gone from a "piece of shit", to "not a great game". Interesting.

So you're implying that a game has to be something like PS:Torment before being worth playing, right?

[Frater Perdurabo]

There's a saying: "If it looks like shit and smells like shit, will I have to taste it to ensure that it's shit?"

[PiP]

They're like Baldur's Gate, but devoid of the shitty RPG elements.

I want sigs back

btw good to see naziKaufman is back.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

I never figured out why people hated/disliked Icewind Dale.
I played all the Balder's Gates and such and I honestly compare the first IWD with BG2. Mind you, one is longer with a better story, but I enjoyed both about the same.

I played both and was quite content.
Hell, the Heart of Winter expansion pack and that Trials of the Luremaster only made the game better.

IWD2 wasn't as good, but it was a good continuation, nonetheless.

[edhead]

So you spent more than those 15 minutes, in fact you've finished the game and at the end of it, it was exactly as you concluded in the beginning.

What Frater Perdurabo said.

Also, you've gone from a "piece of shit", to "not a great game". Interesting.

Kind of. Actually, I just changed my tone from "I thought everybody knows this game is shit" to "wait a minute, someone on DAC actually likes it, so I guess I'll try and be more polite".

So you're implying that a game has to be something like PS:Torment before being worth playing, right?

Not really. I just happened to randomly praise another RPG that was mentioned in the same thread, since it's better than IWD. My favourite game of all time, in fact.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

Realistically, there are alot of games that suck, when you get the kind of coverage I have had, some games suck less.

I would prefer to play IWD over BG2 because it involves less fucking around coddling NPC mansack and more exploration of dungeons, loot and generalized monster rape.
Quests, if I remember correctly, can be vague, which is a nice change from the usual, go fetch me a 6 pack and an inflatable sheep scenario.

Now, I can see the Diablo references coming and I will say this, fuck you.
Personal preferance is personal preferance.

If you wanna wander for 6 hours attempting to find a needle in a haystack, I'm fine with that.
Just don't fucking jump on my ass because I like a game that doesn't play like an episode of Masterpiece Theatre.

I read books for that shit or play adventure games. Hell, I grew up when all I had was adventure games.

And my personal preferance on the PS:Torment front is this, it's tolerable and different.
It's not revolutionary or a game I want to play more than once.
I prefer not to torture myself.

[Redeye]

Perhaps Icewind Gate would be a little more entertaining.

I have yet to try this out, but maybe sometime.

IWD and IWD2 had some nice bits, but they are really pretty much hack 'n' slash.

The mountaintop aquarium- nice.

The Hand of the Seldarine- nice.

The Viciscamera- nice.

Maybe a few other nice bits.

These could have factored into a PS: T type dealio very well.

[edhead]

Now, I can see the Diablo references coming and I will say this, fuck you.
Personal preferance is personal preferance.

Sure, why not.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

Perhaps Icewind Gate would be a little more entertaining.

I have yet to try this out, but maybe sometime.

IWD and IWD2 had some nice bits, but they are really pretty much hack 'n' slash.

The mountaintop aquarium- nice.

The Hand of the Seldarine- nice.

The Viciscamera- nice.

Maybe a few other nice bits.

These could have factored into a PS: T type dealio very well.

Trials of the Luremaster suprised the shit out of me when I first played it.
Its an intriguing story and has some pretty good puzzles.
Much better than the original game but it is short.

[Edward_R_Murrow]

Perhaps Icewind Gate would be a little more entertaining.

I have yet to try this out, but maybe sometime.

Avoid it like the plague. 3rd edition does not mix with BG2 because you get skullfuckingly retarded things like every monster seemingly having a few levels of thief so they can get sneak attack multipliers and the ridiculous HP and damage resistance that ruined the later parts of Icewind Dale 2. It's like the Tactics mod, only for extreme munchkinizers, and isn't a fun way to play through the game.

[Goretheradiatingone]

if i dont get a pie gun then I dont play it.

[aries100]

I would say that you definetely should get both IWD1+IWD2 as I think they can either be bought together for little money or you can buy the big box with all of the crog games that takes place in Forgotten Realms for a little more money.

I have played Icewind Dale 1; I enjoyed it immensely, especially the fact that you explore a lot more than you do in BG2 and BG1. And of course also the fact that you make all 6 characters just like in a real PnP D&D game.

Be sure to make a character with high INT, WIS or CHAR as this will come in handy when persuading someone to do something early on the game...

[Goretheradiatingone]

wher is MY PIE GUN!