FireWolf wrote:I feel the technological state of the fallout 2 world is a little over-stated. there isnt that much tech, modoc is free from it, klamath too. arroyo goes without saying. the tech in reno is limited to drug manufacture, broken hills had a refinery and a generator, vault city had tech but mainly in the vault and originating from the vault itself rather than innovation. the den was practically tech-less. reading also lacked anything other than mining equipment. NCR had some tech but it wasnt as abundent as VC.
san fran was really the black sheep. the tech there was a little over-par.
Modoc, Klamath, Arroyo, The Den are fine. No problem with Redding and BH refinery and generator. Mainly some mining equipment. Vault City I have a problem with. It is a bit over tech even if they have a vault and have used a GECK. The society there is a bit too 'perfect' and the laser turrets guarding the settlement... All the people had high tech monitors in their home and were using their vault suits, nah, I was expecting more Shady Sands look. That's a fine example how a
civilized post-apoc community should look like. And they were highly dependant on agriculture,water and supplies too, which VC was not. And NCR was a bit too over-developed in my opinion.
You're right about San Francisco, wasn't good for the fallouty atmosphere at all.
Really the most significant chance of becoming civilised comes from NCR under the lead of Tandi, who is going to die soon. when she dies NCR would probably disintegrate, afterall, they did have a spy working against them in their government, if you followed bishop, then NCR suffered the loss of one of its senators. NCR would probably (hopefully) collapse under the pressure of the wastes, disintegrating into smaller settlements with agricultural rahter than commercial and industrial economies. afterall, unless you have a resource you can exploit, like reading, you have to produce food.
I doubt NCR will fall after death of Tandi. It's a quite stabile community, with a functional government. Though I secretly hope NCR would fall and disintegrate as you explained, that could maybe have already happened in Fallout 3. NCR expansion is a bit too fast, I doubt its so easy to convert uncivilized and dirty wasteland settlements into NCR standards so quickly, the way NCR sought to expand in FO2. So lets just hope whole California isn't NCR controlled by the time Fallout 3 starts. I'd rather hope a more secluded and trouble ridden NCR in that case if NCR prevails.
The master and the Enclave are the only means of people becoming infected with FEV (maybe at the military base after prolonged exposure).
I agree that BoS should remain the technological leaders of the wastes and their attitude to sharing (i.e. they dont) that knowledge should remain firmly in place. they shouldnt want conquest (like the fot bos *spit*) but to remain a small, religious-like, organisation. this would keep the balance in the wastes.
My thoughts exactly.
Basically, the civilisations in fallout are very young. while they may have started out with technology from the vaults, that technology wouldn't last forever. resulting in the people resorting to older means of survival. primarily people need to supply themselves with food. this means the majority of settlements will have some form of agriculture which forms the base of their economy. then, if there are any natural resources around (reading had gold and other metals, broken hills had urainium) they can extract and export those raw materials to other settlements.
manufacturing is very limited in both fallouts. there were one or two tanneries which made armour to survive, blacksmiths to produce tools for farming and the like and a few commercial businesses like gun shops and hardware stores. the likelyhood of a technological civilisation taking hold with little to no industrial growth is unlikely to say the least. scientists rely on money from a source. and most likely R&D will center on building better means to produce food or something which is useful rather than services like insurance or computers/electronics.
it would take a long time to establish the wastelands as a stable place for a technological civilisation.
any flaws which you can see, feel free to point out.
No flaws there.
