How to get rid of the Child Killer Perk

Dark Cirus · Post by **Dark Cirus** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 1:58 am

Those wiley deathclaws wont let me into vault 13, and I really really really dont want to kill them all, plus I cant get any party members. is there anyway to get rid of this perk??
thanks

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 2:23 am

The trick, you see, is to not kill children. I find that, in my experience, that's the best way to not have child killer. You see, you're just stuck with it. You do have two options. You can load a savegame (you are using all ten savegame slots, right?), which is the decent honorable thing to do, or you can get an editor and use it to remove that perk, which is the cheap, despicable, worse-than-child-killer thing to do.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 2:56 am

Ironically, it doesn't matter much in the end if you kill them deathclaws or not. You'll see.
:oops: sorry, didn't mean to spoil.

Constipated BladeRunner · Mon Aug 05, 2002 3:43 am

VASIKKA?!?! HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT?!?! THAT IS ONE OF THE SADEST PARTS OF THE GAME!?!?

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:14 am

Sure it does Vasika, unless you return to v13... Given you kill them what you're talking about always happens, where if you don't, well, if you never return to v13 the game won't "kill" them

Dark Cirus · Post by **Dark Cirus** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 10:37 am

wait wait wait, which kind of editor. the savegame stat editor doesnt do the trick

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 11:35 am

Just start over. AND THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 3:50 pm

Constipated BladeRunner wrote:VASIKKA?!?! HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT?!?! THAT IS ONE OF THE SADEST PARTS OF THE GAME!?!?

What, no more talking deathclaws? How's that sad?

Red wrote:Sure it does Vasika, unless you return to v13... Given you kill them what you're talking about always happens, where if you don't, well, if you never return to v13 the game won't "kill" them

Yeah, but I count that event as a part of the FO2 story.

Red · Post by **Red** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:38 pm

Oh well, it's just you don't hear about it... So they probably just died by a distraught NCR group of some kind who saw them as a menace

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:24 pm

Or they expanded their territory and started ravaging the wastes until they found the Burrows and with help of the talking elvish racoons took over the BOS and are keeping Feargus Urquhart as hostage. How's that for a starting point for FO3?

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 11:43 pm

Actually, in a vain effort to save them, I planned my route to hit V13 as late as possible in the game. I actually returned after destroying the Enclave to find living deathclaws. The next time I returned, Frank Horrigan had magically resurrected himself to exterminate Gruthar's pack.

It seems to me that BIS bit off a lot more than they could chew; the last four or five locales seem to be more thrown together than the rest of the game. Understandable because its a massive game, but disappointing nonetheless.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Mon Aug 05, 2002 11:45 pm

The entire game feels thrown together.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Tue Aug 06, 2002 5:53 pm

It's the all story about the Xmas deadline.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue Aug 06, 2002 7:00 pm

Beren wrote:Actually, in a vain effort to save them, I planned my route to hit V13 as late as possible in the game. I actually returned after destroying the Enclave to find living deathclaws. The next time I returned, Frank Horrigan had magically resurrected himself to exterminate Gruthar's pack.

That actually makes sense. Frank Horrigan killed Gruthar and his pack before you destroyed the Enclave. You just weren't there(V13) to see it. No resurrections needed.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:39 pm

But they were alive *after* the Enclave and Horrigan were dead.

Dark Cirus · Post by **Dark Cirus** » Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:42 am

Well, I managed to get Marcus with the childkiller karma, he doesnt care. And i was really counting on the robot at SAD, but the Wrights wont talk to me cause of my rep i think. Marcus died when i took out the bishops, but he was slow anyway.. I found out alittle trick: Seeing as Gunther wouldnt help me out, i snuck around him and went up the elevator, repaired the computer, then you get the experience and the love, plus the geck. so it all worked out.. I really want to go to the sierra army depot though, is there anyway to get there besides the wrights?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Aug 07, 2002 2:25 am

I dont think so but we better wait for Red to clarify it.

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Wed Aug 07, 2002 4:26 am

look buddy, start over, without NPCs your probably screwed, you shouldn't have capped that kid.

Dark Cirus · Post by **Dark Cirus** » Wed Aug 07, 2002 7:48 am

yeah..i could easily beat the game without a single npc though, this is like, my tenth time to play and beat it...kinda a fallout vet here.. but this is my first time as a childkiller

..but I think I will start over, its always fun.
thanks.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Aug 07, 2002 4:24 pm

Doyle wrote:But they were alive *after* the Enclave and Horrigan were dead.

OK, I misread your post. The banner distracted me!

It's not really a big deal if you have NPCs or not. In the beginning they're helpful but in the end you can solve all problems and beat all fights without their help.