Duck and Cover

Valdis · Post by **Valdis** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:54 am

How come someone doesn't use the floor plan seen in the Fallout Bible, use a mod utility, use the city limits patch, use the mapper and make EPA??

I'm thinking of doing it right now.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:19 am

I must admit, that's something I wouldn't mind seeing.

I'd give it a burl, but I have sweet bugger all time at the moment. I'm also missing a .dat extracter for the mapper

I'll get around to DLing all the stuff eventually to actually try out the mapper one day....one day..

Valdis · Post by **Valdis** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:32 am

My only problem with the EPA map I'm planning is that I am not familiar with SCRIPTING.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:14 pm

Scripting....

In Fo2 I always thought it had something to do with selected tiles, and when the player walked on them it triggered what ever script. Maybe something in an entitie editor for doors and nearby guards, and the like.

I'm very inclined to think that guards/monsters were set into forces groups, with a trigger making them hostile, etc.

(if this sounds wrong, remember it's only an assumption

)

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:30 pm

The EPA would be an interesting place to visit, indeed. It would probably contain new info on FEV(Yikes!) and have a sort of Area51 feeling combined with 1950's gadgets. Huge underground complex with 7 sub-levels, cool.

Maybe that could be a location in Fallout 3. Can't afford to waste them nice locations these days...

Mack_The_Knife · Post by **Mack_The_Knife** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 6:59 am

It would be PAINFULLY futile for me to even consider giving EPA a whirl... since I am brain-damaged when it comes to arcane modding stuff... But... Ehr... OK for the fifties style, Vasikka...and the gadgets and all... But how about having 3 sub-levels instead of seven, and showing a lot of derelict buildings on the surface... look like a derelict Chicano barrio in Texas in the 50's... or a Tenessee trailer park... showing that people who had it rough before the war, STILL have it rough... Maybe a feudal-type community outside of the monestary, just like the middle ages... and they get constantly raided by biker gangs (who don't have bikes of course... they just run up and down what's left of the freeway), and when the Player Character gets there, an alarm sounds: The Bikers are coming! The Knights of Anarchy are coming! Gary freakin' Coleman is coming! And so the player character takes refuge with the people who live around the monastery inside the monastery walls... and can either take care of the biker threat, or be suspected a spy and trailed in a Middle Ages witchcraft kind of trial - A mix job between Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail and a lot of Hillbillie references...

Valdis · Post by **Valdis** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:40 am

OK, That's it.

I AM WORKING ON THE EPA MAP AS WE SPEAK.

Thank you and good night.

(Really. I mean it. I'm going to start work on an EPA map)

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:39 pm

Sweet, good luck. Let me know if you need any help in something not relating to the editors.

Mack_The_Knife · Post by **Mack_The_Knife** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:04 am

Good luck... mapping can't be easy... especially if you have to stick to an overall plan (in this case Black Isle's maps-to-get-scrapped)...

Valdis · Post by **Valdis** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:05 am

I might, not yet. Thanks for the offer.

Working on the outside as we speak.

The HARDEST thing with this mod/add-on is that I might have to change the surrounding areas so that they could co-exist with a location that shouldn't be there. I might have to put some new people in some old cities or make some new creatures.

Damn.

Expect a test version by Christmas.

Mack_The_Knife · Post by **Mack_The_Knife** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:06 am

(sorry about the spam - I just gotta add something to get my point across) Good luck... mapping can't be easy... especially if you have to stick to an overall plan made by someone else a long, long time ago (in this case Black Isle's maps-to-get-scrapped)...

Valdis · Post by **Valdis** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:24 am

I don't know wether contacting BIS would be a good idea right now.
They might put EPA in Fallout 3.

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 7:59 am

Read the FOB8 about copytigh information about mods.

As for mapping for FO2, until the walls include a "preview" (where you actually drag the wall into the sceneray and "paste" it by clicking, just as in FO:T), I won't bother (and don't really recommend) mapping...

Purple Tentacle · Post by **Purple Tentacle** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:23 am

what is an EPA ?

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:01 pm

Environmental Protection Agency. Two FOBs talked about it further, so go read up...

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 8:33 am

Well, new editor version released. Does that make it any easier, Red?

Red · Post by **Red** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:33 am

Yup amazingly. It's pewfect

Well, I still need to give it real attention but now you can actually build a wall without tring to place it 50 times... Plus it fixes a bug which kinda scared me on bigger maps. Map on!

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:34 am

I was thinking of making new cities and then submitting them to the site. I am guessing that map files would go in the "media" section of the site. Best get to work

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 4:34 am

just edit fallout enough to cal it fallout 1 and 1/2, lol. same city layout but different citys and such

Red · Post by **Red** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 11:46 pm

There are still issues though but the thing is it's not figurred out yet. All wall tiles have 3 values which aren
't set when you place them, and I think a thread in the FO1/2 editing forum talked about the walls not working properly until you fill these values. The editor doesn't support automatically putting thses values making it quite time consuming to do walls...

Only the person was wrong in the thread that is.

EPA

EPA

Sublevels - ehrm...