100% Chem Resistant-A Possibility?

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:19 am

I was just wondering if it is possible for a character to be unable to get addicted to any drug? I know that the optional trait Chem Resistant makes you 50% less likely to be addicted by chems, and that the perk Flower Child also makes you 50% less likely to get addicted, but if you add the two together, does it truly mean that you can never be addicted? Or is it like skills? They can go beyond the 100% mark, you know.

What I'm saying is, is it possible to have a character who can use tons of jet every day and still not get addicted to the stuff?

What stat bonuses does using jet give you, anyway?

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:24 am

Jet gets you addicted no matter what so forget about that.

Is flower child even in FO2?

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:34 am

Wait a moment, there--I remember reading something about Jet having a 50% chance to addict you--somewhere along those lines. Are you saying for sure that that is not true?

Ninja Penguin · Post by **Ninja Penguin** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:40 am

Where ever you heard that LIES. Jet has 100% addiction rate, and it never wears off unless you get the antidote.

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:58 am

Why would someone tell a lie like that? Are you sure?

If it's not possible with jet, is it possible with every other drug?

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:06 am

No he's right it's 50%.

I was fooled because a convesation with Myron reveals that it should be higher, but it's not.

Sorry for the mistake.

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:07 am

So, then, it is possible to use jet without being addicted to it, provided that you have the Chem Resistant optional trait and the Flower Child perk?

Warlord · Post by **Warlord** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:41 am

If you get lucky, but you WILL get addicted to it sooner or later. No matter if you are Chem Resistant and Flower Child (which by the way is in the game, though I have no idea of the requirements or where to get it, at least with editor).

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:05 am

I know it's "in the game", but I'm faily certain that unless you have the editor you can't get that perk.

It's a Fallout 1 perk (for obvious reasons).

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:13 pm

It's easy to get in FO2, without editing. I've many times had the option. I don't remember for sure, but I think the requirements were something about endurance...

This is Gonna Hurt · Post by **This is Gonna Hurt** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 7:01 pm

Kashluk wrote:It's easy to get in FO2, without editing. I've many times had the option. I don't remember for sure, but I think the requirements were something about endurance...

No it wasn't. All my endurance 3-4 snipers have gotten the flower child option.

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 8:34 pm

Warlord wrote:If you get lucky, but you WILL get addicted to it sooner or later. No matter if you are Chem Resistant and Flower Child (which by the way is in the game, though I have no idea of the requirements or where to get it, at least with editor).

How could a person be addicted to jet with a Chem Resistance of 100%? Please explain.

Ninja Penguin · Post by **Ninja Penguin** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 1:08 am

Well, okay, maybe I was wrong about the Jet addiction rates, but I'm pretty confident that

Chem Resistant and Flower child != 100% Addiction Defense

See, it's like this. Chem Resistant cuts your Addiction rate by 50%. Flower Child, by logic, would decrease the likelyhood of addiction by another 50%.

Haethurn · Post by **Haethurn** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 1:22 am

Ninja Penguin wrote:Well, okay, maybe I was wrong about the Jet addiction rates, but I'm pretty confident that

Chem Resistant and Flower child != 100% Addiction Defense

See, it's like this. Chem Resistant cuts your Addiction rate by 50%. Flower Child, by logic, would decrease the likelyhood of addiction by another 50%.

This is great! Now my character can use drugs to increase all of his stats without fear of being addicted and suffering those nasty withdrawal symptoms.

Ninja Penguin · Post by **Ninja Penguin** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:27 am

Haethurn wrote:
Ninja Penguin wrote:Well, okay, maybe I was wrong about the Jet addiction rates, but I'm pretty confident that

Chem Resistant and Flower child != 100% Addiction Defense

See, it's like this. Chem Resistant cuts your Addiction rate by 50%. Flower Child, by logic, would decrease the likelyhood of addiction by another 50%.
This is great! Now my character can use drugs to increase all of his stats without fear of being addicted and suffering those nasty withdrawal symptoms.

...no.

Flower Child would decrease your addiction chance 50% FROM the already cut rate from Chem Resistant. So it'd be much less likely for addiction, but there is still a chance.

Protip: "!" in programming languages is "not". Thus, "!=" is "not equal".

Warlord · Post by **Warlord** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:28 am

That's right. It's not that simple adding like 50 + 50 = 100
They work like multipliers. So first the CR would be .5 multiplier and FC another .5 to that already lowered rate.

And for Jet, you WILL get addicted to it if you use it. Maybe not the first time or the second, but it will come. So don't use it unless you have the antidote.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:31 am

Howabout we put the chem resistence you also gain from your normal stats? That'll be about another 10% or so right, on 10 Endurance?