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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:47 am
by FLEA
Dark Xenomorph wrote:
The Shrike wrote: but communists are evil. At least thats what the US government tells me :wink:
Yes and if we Duck and Cover, the nuclear waves will bounce off us and back to the evil russkies, Take THAT Commies!
i would apreciate if everybody stayed away from making comments like that about me country and my belifs

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 3:09 am
by Megatron
I doubt he was trying to offend you, just making a joke about 50's propaganda. If he were to offend your country he'd probably put more stuff than evil commie. :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 4:34 pm
by VasikkA
commies etc.. is just some old stuff from cold war era, you should ignore it.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:07 am
by FLEA
i wouldnt get mad if i didnt actualy belived in a the idea of comunism but i do

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 4:24 am
by Doyle
Well, if you weren't such a backwards commie, then you'd realize how flawed it is. ;)

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 5:27 am
by Constipated BladeRunner
EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh, dont get me started, Capitalist pig-dog.
I consider myself a communist, though it will take about 50 years of technological and social progression before it really becomes possible.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:11 am
by The Shrike
I smacketh thee back to the evil empire from which thou came. :wink:


I belive that comunism would work if people wern't so greedy and power hungry. But the day that happens pigs will fly. oh! wait they do, in helicopters

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:20 am
by Constipated BladeRunner
Every philospher has realized that their contemporary humans are not capable of utopia. Each one of them created a sort of super man by various ways-
Plato has his horse like breeding techniques
Niztche had his Nazi like aryan superman.
Both however where inexcusably wrong by any sane moral standard.
Soon, however we will have the technology to create a human that can function under communisim- a sort of man made angel.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 3:35 pm
by VasikkA
Constipated BladeRunner wrote:Soon, however we will have the technology to create a human that can function under communisim- a sort of man made angel.
Yeah, go clone the chinese.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2002 9:29 pm
by Constipated BladeRunner
The Chinese govt. is most likely among the most corrupted in the world.
The so called "people's factories" are nothing more that shit-holes with five cents worth of rod iron strung about in brilliant ways to kill people.
The only hope for China lies in private industries, at the moment.

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 4:02 am
by Stevie D
Constipated BladeRunner wrote:The Chinese govt. is most likely among the most corrupted in the world.
The so called "people's factories" are nothing more that shit-holes with five cents worth of rod iron strung about in brilliant ways to kill people.
The only hope for China lies in private industries, at the moment.
So, let me get this straight... as a communist, you're advocating market economics to save a system of government and economy that has been proved time and again to be wholly unworkable and corrupt?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 9:58 am
by Constipated BladeRunner
China is not "communist".
There have only been few real communes in the history of the human race.
Most of them died out with ancient Isreal.
However, a self-conscious hybrid has worked (under the name "Socalisim") in many countries across Europe- Germany, France, Switzerland, Sweden, etc. but the world is still not ready for world wide commune.

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 3:06 pm
by Stevie D
Nah, free trade is what you want, mate. Why spoil it?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2002 4:51 pm
by OnTheBounce
Stevie D wrote:Nah, free trade is what you want, mate. Why spoil it?
There is no more "Free Trade" as there is "Free Will" in this world. Unbridled capitalism breeds two classes of people: Rockefellers and the rest of the people. (The latter class of people are "free" to die of starvation if they don't knuckle under...)

CBR is right about something, though, that there has never been a communist regime in this world. Marx proposed communism not as something that would come in the immediate wake of a proletarian revolution, but rather as a distant goal that Humanity would eventually achieve after the intermediate stage of Socialism had become so deeply ingrained in the social fabric that laws and governments were no longer needed. He was a bit overly optimistic in his faith in this species, methinks...

OTB

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 2:59 am
by Doyle
Back on topic, I wouldn't mind having an option to become a bad guy yourself, but still opposed to the bad guy in the game. In Fallout, you might have been able to unite the raider groups and counter the mutant threat with an assault on the vats while the majority of the army was off wrecking havoc elsewhere. That sort of thing.

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:31 am
by Raymondo2000
Well if you think about it, in the next fallout you cud not be one of the VD's Sons you cud be like a tarder or fallout makers cud do this in fallout 3:

You get too pick your starting like your a thug and end up as a mob boss and get killed and start fallout 4 as someone else or your a tarder you get rice and power full but get a assassined or something like that, the makers cud just let you make the game up yourself in that way so the game is in your hands witch I think wud be really cool.

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2002 4:03 am
by Constipated BladeRunner
OnTheBounce wrote:
Stevie D wrote:Nah, free trade is what you want, mate. Why spoil it?
There is no more "Free Trade" as there is "Free Will" in this world. Unbridled capitalism breeds two classes of people: Rockefellers and the rest of the people. (The latter class of people are "free" to die of starvation if they don't knuckle under...)

CBR is right about something, though, that there has never been a communist regime in this world. Marx proposed communism not as something that would come in the immediate wake of a proletarian revolution, but rather as a distant goal that Humanity would eventually achieve after the intermediate stage of Socialism had become so deeply ingrained in the social fabric that laws and governments were no longer needed. He was a bit overly optimistic in his faith in this species, methinks...

OTB
OTB is god.