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Aonaran · Post by **Aonaran** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:30 am

I recognize Citizen Kane as an important and masterfully made film, a landmark by all means, it just holds no personal resonance with me. I can appreciate it but it is far from my favorite.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:40 am

I suppose "Citizen Kane is my fav" was figuratively used for "I recognize Citizen Kane as an important and masterfully made film, a landmark by all means" in the poll.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:44 am

I thought it was pretty over rated?

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:59 am

don't know the ratings exactly, I liked "C.Kane" a lot.
BTW, I've just found something related to the topic:

Aonaran · Post by **Aonaran** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:03 am

I thought it was exeptionally overrated the first time I saw it, then I studied it and got a context for it as well as looked in detail at the technique and how light was used as a storytelling device. It wasn't until then that I gained respect for it. Still, not my favorite or even in my top 20 but an incredible landmark in film none the less.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:26 am

Someone actually had a seizure when I went to see Doom so that comic may be more true then we'd like to believe.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:01 am

The citizen kane option was a screen for "i am a swell guy." The first one was "yes" and the last one was "no, and i am part swell guy."

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:56 am

citizen kane wasn't that good. Espeacially compared to recent movies like say...godfather or whatever. For it's time it was good, but even then I'd prefer to watch laurel and hardy

They're making a quake movie by the way, you better show up on set and make your demans huh.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:20 am

POOPERSCOOPER wrote:The citizen kane option was a screen for "i am a swell guy." The first one was "yes" and the last one was "no, and i am part swell guy."

I kind of predicted that a liking for films which don't consist in mindless action + eyecandy / slapstick "humour" is going to be labelled "OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone." What can I say..

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:35 pm

Citizen Kane certainly was good, and it certainly is a quality movie, even nowadays, but at least the 3/4 of people who say they like it are assholes who wanna look witty.

Aonaran · Post by **Aonaran** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:07 pm

S4ur0n27 wrote:Citizen Kane certainly was good, and it certainly is a quality movie, even nowadays, but at least the 3/4 of people who say they like it are assholes who wanna look witty.

Amen

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:04 pm

Personally, I thought the movie was fucking boring.

Aonaran · Post by **Aonaran** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:12 pm

S4ur0n27 wrote:Personally, I thought the movie was fucking boring.

Well, you know, most 64 year old movies tend to be.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:36 pm

the only "boring" part was all the newspaper headlines in the beginning. When that ended, my attention got grabbed and I followed Mr Kan eagerly till the end of the film. (What a character!)

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:22 pm

Rosebud!

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:12 am

I'd like to violate your rosebud

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:09 pm

It's already filled up!

MR Snake · Post by **MR Snake** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:59 pm

King of Creation wrote:Yeah...it was kind of stupid to say that all the demons were just mutated people. It definitely leaves room for a sequal, however, with all of the talk and no walk to the infamous "Dig Site."

Well thanks alot for that dickhead. Not like im gonna go see it tomorrow or anything.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:38 pm

I bought Citizen Kane and laurance of arabia years ago to look smarty and witty. At the time I was like "if i like movies so much i got to be able to like these" but they were just okay. Like Megatron said, they were probably great for their time but a lot of it has been redone and imrpoved over the years that I can't really forget that and say that "omg old school is better" when i never lived around that time.

I dont like people who praise those movies just because you have to like sophisticated movies to be heard or respected. I'm back to the basics, I've always liked shoot em' ups and action. A lot of arnolds and stallones movies are my favorite and I think they are good movies regardless of nostalgia.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:14 pm

POOPERSCOOPER wrote: a lot of it has been redone and imrpoved over the years

what exactly was improved over Citizen Kane and where?

I dont like people who praise those movies just because you have to like sophisticated movies to be heard or respected.

What about people who praise those films because they hold them in high regard?

I've always liked shoot em' ups and action. A lot of arnolds and stallones movies are my favorite and I think they are good movies regardless of nostalgia

The medium is not enough for a common denominator sometimes;
you just can't compare films whose 'goodness' is measured by the quantity of violence, fast action, special effects, blood, explosions, muscles, fancy firearms and such with those where what matters is a fascinating story, psychological depth of well-rounded characters, artistic presentation, overall emotional and intellectual impact on the viewer.

I'm not saying that action films are only watched by morons; on the contrary, I happen to watch an action flick myself sometimes. Be it just because I, say, have a liking for a particular type of setting (e.g. SF setting in 'Aliens')
It's just they are a different category.

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