Duck and Cover

being a good guy, i got the champion label with around +1300 karma. What about you?

I got it around 400. You see, it doesn't matter how high the karma is, you just need to do a specified number of "good" quests.

My evil charisma/sniper boy had around -1100 by the end of the game. Although being the evil person he was, he had less exp due to the loss of quests available. Plus I had to kill every good person in random encounters, such as bounty hunters. And those annoying caravans that wouldn't trade with me. Farmers... and their children. (hey, what evil character isn't a childkiller? :twisted: Err, maybe not the english version. Apologies sir.)

Actually the champion trait is attributed in another way:

Take all the creatures you've killed, once you've reached 25 creatures, then you can have it.

If you've killed 2/3 "evil" creatures, then you get champion.

If you've killed 1/2 "good" creatures, then you get um.. the evil equivalant (berserker?)

Some creatures probably don't count (neutral ones or something), I haven't checked.

Loudood wrote:I got it around 400. You see, it doesn't matter how high the karma is, you just need to do a specified number of "good" quests.

It doesnt matter to me. I just wanted to be completely through with the game. While we're on the topic what level what ur Fallout 2 charcater? mine was 21-24, im not really sure...

Red wrote:Actually the champion trait is attributed in another way:

Take all the creatures you've killed, once you've reached 25 creatures, then you can have it.

If you've killed 2/3 "evil" creatures, then you get champion.

If you've killed 1/2 "good" creatures, then you get um.. the evil equivalant (berserker?)

Some creatures probably don't count (neutral ones or something), I haven't checked.

Sounds weird, but is it possible to get both champion and berserker?
First get champion and then kill everyone. :twisted:
Gotta try that.

One time i wanted to see the bezerker symbol so i was killing everybody in San Fransisco, and i only changed from Champion, when i killed a child, so i never saw that bezerker thing. If somebody has a picture of it, please show me.

Uhh, you can't be a champion and berserker at the same time, if you are a champion and you kill enough people it will disappear, although I've never tried to go from berserker to champion.

My karma was 1648. If you do all the quests and kill the right people, it will shoot right up.

Loudood wrote:Uhh, you can't be a champion and berserker at the same time, if you are a champion and you kill enough people it will disappear, although I've never tried to go from berserker to champion.

i dont think there are enough people in the game to do THAT.

I'm still playing but I'm karam thing what ever is about 1068 and I'm half way in to it

I'm still playing but I'm karam thing what ever is about 1068 and I'm half way in to it

Too bad you can't be both at the same time. Though it would be easier to go from champion to berserker than the opposite.
In SF, if you kill the hubologists, you get positive karma. So only kill the Shi to get berserker.

As soon as you become Beserker the champion status is removed (and the opposite). I thought about that too

I believe in my most recent game (just finished last night ) I had a karma of around 1200 and was level 22... I've actually never played FO2 evil style, so I'm gonna try that now.

I cannot give any exact numbers about my karma. In good games I usually finish around 1000-1500 karma, in evil games -2000 and lower. In theory, I could kill everyone and make it even lower, but I guess I'm too lazy.

Goodie-good, all the way, dudes 8)

All who have karma less than 10k are scum, kill 'em all

I just finished again --

Jan 12, 2242 -- Level 29 -- 422,843 XP -- 2,151 Karma

i finished with a lvl 20 karma 600 my exp was 222,189 and i was a champion 8)

usually ~ 2500 except 'evil games': ~ -1000