Useless items?

Dragonetti · Post by **Dragonetti** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:42 pm

...condoms and shivs do? Shivs can't be used in combat, but they are still knives. Condoms, well I can guess but i'm not sure.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:01 pm

First of all, learn how to correctly fill the title field.

Now, In role playing games not everything has to have a purpose.
Some things are just there for ambience.

Dragonetti · Post by **Dragonetti** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:09 pm

What was wrong with my title?

And why the hell isn' a KNIFE useable in combat? It's designed not to be seen, but who gives a FF if it is seen?

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 3:14 pm

I think that when you have a condom in your inventory Angela Bishop won't go pregnant after you shag her. So in fact they have a use. As for shivs i never figured it out, they look cool anyway.

Armisael · Post by **Armisael** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 5:31 pm

They look sort of like a joint to me. You can't use them because they're broken or something. Not classified as a weapon, or don't have an attack assigned or whatever. No 1-3 damage for you.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 6:44 pm

Condoms are to avoid getting the Bishop women pregnant and changing the New Reno endgame slide. The shiv, as explained very clearly and in detail in the Fallout Bible, was designed to be a weapon that would not be detected by people searching you. However, since there was ultimately only one instance where the PC is searched in the game (non-citizens of Vault City), this was dropped, but the weapon itself stayed in as another melee weapon.

Dragonetti · Post by **Dragonetti** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:11 pm

Hmm. I wish Interplay (Or whoever is responsible) would tie up their damn loose ends. The Shiv even has a Min ST for crying out loud. And then they leave Brotherhood tech in Navarro. I think they should make a patch for this.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:27 pm

Dragonetti wrote:Hmm. I wish Interplay (Or whoever is responsible) would tie up their damn loose ends. The Shiv even has a Min ST for crying out loud. And then they leave Brotherhood tech in Navarro. I think they should make a patch for this.

IIRC there was Brotherhood tech in the stables in New Reno as well, and the super sledge at Navarro. In Fallout the BOS were buying water from the water merchants of the Hub, maybe they were selling low level (to them) tech which the Enclave bought/took from a third party.

Bloodgeon11 · Post by **Bloodgeon11** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:47 pm

It's still my dream to see a fallout where all those lighters can be put to use by lighting Moltov Cocktails and setting random things on fire!

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:47 pm

The Enclave has its own high-tech stuff. They do not need to buy from the wasteland.

Phias · Post by **Phias** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:18 pm

They dealed drugs with the Salvatore family.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:20 pm

Drugs and computers are two different things, bucko. They probably didn't have the proper techniques to create Jet and the like, but if they can build Advanced Power Armor and Vertibirds, computers are not a problem. Plus, the Enclave and Brotherhood are working from the same blueprints here: pre-war government/army stuff.

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:23 pm

why do they buy drugs from the salvators? for tests? FEV?

oh, and the first time i saw a shiv i thought it was a corn-dog, lol

ArchVile · Post by **ArchVile** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:35 am

dude, my friend told me that it was a knife hidden in a corn dog. and i believed him, for a while

Dragonetti · Post by **Dragonetti** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:20 am

Well all the same, even if they are working off the same old prewar blueprints things would be different. In FO1 the BOS redesigned lasers etc. so therefore the Enclave's would also be different. (Hence APA)

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 3:46 pm

can you use the shiv while boxing?

Demon-X · Post by **Demon-X** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 4:17 pm

Strapon2 wrote:why do they buy drugs from the salvators? for tests? FEV?

The chemicals they get are raw materials not drugs, I guess they ran out on the oil rig or something like that.

Sankis · Post by **Sankis** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:45 am

atoga wrote:can you use the shiv while boxing?

I believe they said they planned to add that in the Bible somewhere, but I'm not positive

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:47 am

That was the original idea for the shiv--boxing and the San Francisco fights. However, they didn't put it in since the Shiv was so pathetic anyways.

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 3:02 am

Considering that if you remove the boxing gloces you're disqualified I doubt you can replace it with a Shiv... And I can't really imagine anyone holsing a shiv in a boxing glove without anyone noticing...