Problem w/Lenny the Super Mutant in NCR

Cucuracha · Post by **Cucuracha** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:12 am

After smashing Lenny's head like fine china in the boxing ring to impress Merk, the game doesn't transition my character out of the ring and I'm stuck there.
Anyone know a fix for this?
Thanks.

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:52 am

Typical boxing bug though admitably this one is so unkown it might actually be another recurrent bug.

My advice would be to try the fight again, and avoid saving/loading while in the fight as much as possible as that's what seems to trigger bugs.

Cucuracha · Post by **Cucuracha** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:30 am

I'll give that a try.
Danke schoen, Red.

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:49 am

the best bugs are in sanfran, when you end up fighting like 5 guys + lopan/dragon at the same time.
ive had that happen twice now, i dont really know how i got it screwwed up that bad though... heheh

Tank · Post by **Tank** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:19 am

Did they just walk through the ropes? Id that's the case, it might be because the program forgot to place those secret blocking hexes (!) all around the rope so that they could come in... But then again, that should also allow you to run like like hell, so...

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:54 pm

Well, every single time I got a bug personally it was because of a save/load screw up personally.

Notice how you get a free turn between rounds? If you save there it's perfectly safe since when you load the opponent doesn't return into attack mode.
There is another thing which often triggers it, which is "finishing" the opponent.

So if you
a) Don't finish the opponents
and
b) Only save in the free rounds

The bug will NEVER trigger. Although it's often handy to trigger said bug as then often the match finishes in 1 round and you don't need to actually fight anyone

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:05 pm

Tank wrote:Did they just walk through the ropes? Id that's the case, it might be because the program forgot to place those secret blocking hexes (!) all around the rope so that they could come in... But then again, that should also allow you to run like like hell, so...

Nah, the trick is that the one you have beaten stays in the ring, and another opponent appears too. Pain in the ass, fighting 3 of them is really annoying. I didn't know that saving affects this so I had to kick their asses at once in a couple of games.

Red · Post by **Red** » Thu May 01, 2003 12:51 am

As I mentioned though, if you use that extra round you're given when you win to save, it's perfectly fine.

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:34 pm

WhatÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s this boxing match with Mutant-Lenny you are talking about?

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:40 pm

Chrille wrote:WhatÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s this boxing match with Mutant-Lenny you are talking about?

You can fight him in the bar in the NCR Bazaar (or whatever that location is called). It's not very fair as he's armed with a Power Fist (you can get it from him if you knock him down). I guess I never really finished this quest because of a bug, I couldn't get out of the ring after I killed him. :x

Raymondo · Post by **Raymondo** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:42 pm

Cool, I've never heard of this quest before. HOw do you get him to fight you?

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:44 pm

Fallout Junkie wrote:Cool, I've never heard of this quest before. HOw do you get him to fight you?

You have to talk to Lenny (it's not really a dialogue) and then talk to Merk. It's one of the ways of proving yourself to him if I remember correctly.

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:47 pm

Zbyram wrote:
Fallout Junkie wrote:Cool, I've never heard of this quest before. HOw do you get him to fight you?
Shit, I don't remember exactly. I guess you have to talk to Merk, but I'm not really sure.

IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ll guess iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ll try that out... ivÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â© never heard of this beofre so it should be fun. IÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ve read the posts about the bug so iÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´ll take it easy..

Red · Post by **Red** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:51 am

I think it requires <4 INT though. I know normally you don't get that though I don't remember the specifics.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:55 am

Ah, something Stupid. I should consult Per Jorner's walkthrough about this.

Zbyram · Post by **Zbyram** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:55 pm

Red wrote:I think it requires <4 INT though. I know normally you don't get that though I don't remember the specifics.

I'm sure you can fight him with normal intelligence. Maybe you can have a full-scale conversation with Lenny only when you're stupid, but it's not required to fight.

Red · Post by **Red** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:04 am

Yeah

One option is to fight Lenny the super mutant alone in a secret basement, limited to these weapons: Knife, Spear, Sledgehammer, Rock, Crowbar, Brass Knuckles, Super Sledge, Ripper, Cattle Prod, Spiked Knuckles, Power Fist, Combat Knife, Sharpened Spear. To get this you must have "talked" to Lenny at least once. To make it a lot easier you could steal Lenny's Stimpaks and Power Fist before the fight. Mira gives you a Booze if you talk to her afterwards.

and

Don't save the game during your fight with Lenny, since if you have to reload you may be stuck in the ring after you kill him. The same bug apparently plagued the ring fights in New Reno and San Francisco in the unpatched version. Although the readme says they're fixed I would still advise against saving during any ring fight.

Thank god for Per.

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:57 pm

Yeah, i made it! I kicked LennyÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´s ass! But i didnÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t get to choose weapon...

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:29 pm

wtf? whats all this?
When I talked to merc he wanted me to kill the Hubologist in the dead center of NCR. (Know how hard it is to get outta there after kill him?)
And when I talked to Lenny he just rambled about nothin. weird

JamesDuck · Post by **JamesDuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:03 am

I always use c4 but for me it takes time my game crashes alot when i do that but ive got it b 4