Satanisgreat Presents: Movies from Hell

T-900 · Post by **T-900** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:01 pm

I love that film too.. Particularly for the music. The scene where they start doing their little 'missions' for fightclub.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:53 am

Couple comments: Open Range was quite nice (nevermind the love stuff Costener and Duvall did their jobs well), Kill Bill will probably be stupid overproduced garbage (it looks to me like a high budgeted Power Rangers starring Uma Thurman and that stupid cunt Lucy Liu), Tarantino's done a few good movies and a buncha bad ones, though anyone that delivers the line "Is there a sign above my house that says DEAD swell guy STORAGE?!" deserves the thumbs up.

I'd like to see The Seven Samurai and The Big Lebowski reviewed. Oh yeah, Battle Royale was pretty good...would've been better if Shuya had ended up DEAD THAT IGNORANT LITTLE COCK.

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:57 am

The Gaijin wrote:I'd like to see The Seven Samurai and The Big Lebowski reviewed. Oh yeah, Battle Royale was pretty good...would've been better if Shuya had ended up DEAD THAT IGNORANT LITTLE COCK.

I've never heard of the Seven Samurai. The Big Lebowski was pretty good though. I might not be able to get to indivdual suggestions for a while, because I owe about thirty bucks on my Blockbuster card and I think I might have gotten myself fired from my job yesterday. If that's the case, I'll just have to borrow what I can from my friends, who are basically free Blockbusters anyway.

Strap · Post by **Strap** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:12 am

satanisgreat wrote:I've never heard of the Seven Samurai.

Oh my god, get yourself to the nearest video store and watch this ancient classic. now!

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 5:21 am

The Seven Samurai's an old B&W Japanese movie by Akira Kurosawa--probably my favorite movie of all time. It's about a farming village which is being attacked by bandits, and in defense they hire seven samurai to repel around 40 crazed marauders. Great shit.

Jawz II · Post by **Jawz II** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:09 am

ive seen half of seven samurais...

so that is 3.5 samurais...

no seriously it was on tv once i saw the first half,wasnt bad,but it wasnt THAT good either

also,it was kevin costners charachters favourite movie in that piece of shit movie the bodyguard,with him and that hot black chick
which kinda ruined it for me

the big lebowski isw one of my favourite all time movies,after i 1st saw it for about a year and a half i did nothing but to sit around and smoke pot!

i even drank a few white russian in clubs and bars...

back to fight club,the skinheads werent nazis,if anything they were left wing in my opinion
real skinhead nazis r such a bunch of weenies

im no gangster badass mofo or anything,but ill tell u,those nazi guys r at the bottom of the food chain in prisons and among other criminals

anyways fight club kicks ass,ive asked all of my friends what they think about the movie and to my surprise 90% of them said they didnt understand it

like literally they didnt know what was happening with tyler durden and that they were the same person etc

well i guess i shouldnt expect more from the same bunch that didnt understand what was goin on in the matrix...

but they loved the crap outta fast and the furious though...

i should get smarter friends

Bridgeburner · Post by **Bridgeburner** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:38 am

or u could commit suicide.

i saw Eyes Wide Shut yesterday. very Kubrick indeed. nice movie anyway, bit slow but lots of nekkid women.

T-900 · Post by **T-900** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:52 pm

"nice movie anyway, bit slow but lots of nekkid women."

And i'm sure that's what matters bridgeburner.

And Tarantino's best line (ok, set of lines) is from Dusk till Dawn;

Girl: Where're we goin'?
Tarantino: Mexico.
Girl:What's there?
Tarantino: *short pause*... Mexicans.

Something like that anyway

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:43 pm

T-900 wrote:"nice movie anyway, bit slow but lots of nekkid women."

And i'm sure that's what matters bridgeburner.

It's the basis for mulholland drive, so it's WINNING FORMULA LEWL

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:32 pm

The Magnificent Seven, a really great western, was based on Seven Samurai and also rocks. In this adaptation, a village hires seven cowboys to kill a bunch of Mexicans.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:50 pm

Mulholland Drive is a great movie, Megatron, don't diss it. Lesbianism / exploitation of women was one of the main themes, and Lynch, being a pervert, decided to show all of that to the audience (rather than a 'fade to black' which is what most directors would do).

And I thought Eyes Wide Shut sucked. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman both acted horribly, and the movie tried too hard to be cerebral while just coming off as some wannabe-porn. Atoga does not approve.

Bridgeburner · Post by **Bridgeburner** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:06 pm

atoga wrote:And I thought Eyes Wide Shut sucked. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman both acted horribly, and the movie tried too hard to be cerebral while just coming off as some wannabe-porn. Atoga does not approve.

uhm what exactly did you find horrible about their performances? i happen to think they both played very believable. probably the best thing tom cruise has ever done. but that says more about him then the movie i guess. and i guess i'm always a sucker for Kubrick camera work.

saw roujin z yesterday. many ppl claimed it's better than akira (same makers), but i thought it was kinda dissapointing. animation was sloppy and the characters weren't all that interesting. plot was great though.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:35 pm

Bridgeburner wrote:probably the best thing tom cruise has ever done.

I thought that "Born on the Fourth Of July" was better. Thats probably my favorite Cruise movie.

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:18 pm

Indeed, I think his acting in Minority Report was even better. *Sigh.*

Last night they played the Shining once more on national television. Man, that movie is sooooooooo goooooood, especially the shots where the blood flows out of the walls, the bathroom kissing with zombie scene, the bar,... Ever noticed when the kids rides his go-kart over the wooden floor and each time he passes a floormat, it gives such a creepy sound! Kubrick is god!

Time for another Kubrick marathon I guess.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:35 pm

o/ I own every one of the Kubrick fillums. Hardcore!

Tom Cruise is ok in his earlier stuff, but now he's a totally shitty actor.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:51 pm

Jawz II wrote:no seriously [Seven Samurai] was on tv once i saw the first half,wasnt bad,but it wasnt THAT good either

A lot of these "old" movies can't be appreciated for the impact they had any more. For instance, using slow motion for emphasis during a violent scene has become cliched, but back when Seven Samurai was filmed it was fresh and new, and lots of young, aspiring directors were exposed to it in the movie.

There's lots of things that were done in that movie that made it a cornerstone of modern cinema. To be fair, Kurosawa didn't invent a lot of them, like the slo-mo, or even using musical themes for different factions in the film, but he tied it together and added his own, unique elements, such as his insistance on using telephoto lenses. Basically, w/o this film cinema today wouldn't be what it is.

One thing I really liked about Seven Samurai was that even though it could be classified as an "action movie", it doesn't have any of the heroic buffoonery that we see in that type of film today. The samurai and peasants use effective tactics to isolate the bandits and defeat them piecemeal, hunting them down like dogs. This aspect was -- unfortunately -- not present in the remake The Magnificent Seven that Spazmo mentioned, which is still an otherwise decent film.

Before it starts to sound like I'm putting Kurosawa up on a pedastal, let me say that some of his influence is "for better or worse". For instance, back in the '30s, '40s and '50s most movies took roughly a month of production and had miniscule budgets of perhaps $50K to $75K while his pictures took up to two years to make and cost $1 million. While Kurosawa wasn't the only director that was responsible for blockbuster budgets, he's one of a cabal that was, including others like Cecil B. DeMille. Kurosawa was, however, solely responsible for this phenomenon in Japan, as well as the ressurection of the jidai geki (costume/period piece) in Japan, which had lost interest in that sort of thing in the wake of WWII. Essentially, the Japanese studios didn't think they could compete internationally. Boy were they wrong...

Check out the filmographies for actors/actresses from the '30s and you'll see that there were many that were in 6-8 films/year, something that is unheard of today. Maureen O'Sullivan is one. She was in 8 films in '32. That's unheard of today, especially considering she was a lead actress, not playing minor roles. Big budget blockbusters killed this sort of thing.

Jawz II wrote:also,it was kevin costners charachters favourite movie in that piece of shit movie the bodyguard,with him and that hot black chick

If I'm not mistaken that movie was originally written w/Steve McQueen in mind, although I'm not sure who was supposed to play the female lead. I'm pretty damned sure that would have made a much better movie than what we were eventually served up...

atoga wrote:Tom Cruise is ok in his earlier stuff, but now he's a totally shitty actor.

I sincerely hope that you aren't lumping that waste of celluloid known as Top Gun in that category.

Of course, those of you who have seen Sleep with Me know that TG was nothing more than a collosal metaphor for homosexuality...at least according to Tarantino's rant in it.

OTB

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:59 pm

atoga wrote:Mulholland Drive is a great movie, Megatron, don't diss it. Lesbianism / exploitation of women was one of the main themes, and Lynch, being a pervert, decided to show all of that to the audience (rather than a 'fade to black' which is what most directors would do).

And I thought Eyes Wide Shut sucked. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman both acted horribly, and the movie tried too hard to be cerebral while just coming off as some wannabe-porn. Atoga does not approve.

I thought it was a good movie, but some constipated kubrickian study-men probably just have it because DEBBY DOES DALLAS might look a littel SUSPRICOUS

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:43 am

OnTheBounce wrote:I sincerely hope that you aren't lumping that waste of celluloid known as Top Gun in that category.

Apparently, you've never been TO THA DANGAH ZONE.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:59 am

The Gaijin wrote:Apparently, you've never been TO THA DANGAH ZONE.

Mike Muir might have shot Reagan, but it was me that flayed Kenny Loggins alive, and stuffed his skin w/chaff... :badgrin:

OTB

Viktor · Post by **Viktor** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:52 pm

OnTheBounce wrote:
Of course, those of you who have seen Sleep with Me know that TG was nothing more than a collosal metaphor for homosexuality...at least according to Tarantino's rant in it.

OTB

If Top Gun had been any more camp, they'd have had to call it "Carry On Dogfighting"!