Satanisgreat Presents: Movies from Hell

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:47 pm

I didn't like Memento. It seemed like a Pulp Fiction ripoff, minus the good acting and wit and a really well done chronological order (though I always find films not in chronoligcal order kinda interesting, and watch them at least twice). Other than that, mostly stupid.

Kharn: okay, your point makes more sense now. Though, of course, there's always plenty of bullshit to go around. Not all reneissance paintings are that great either, but simply because most people only see the best ones (in art galleries & such) they assume it's all very great and dandy. Which kind of pisses me off. Talk about a limited scope.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:07 pm

Oh. See, Memento totally kicked my ass and is my favorite movie of all time. And I've seen a lot of movies, peeps.

I thought Citizen Kane was....alright. I don't think it holds up as well today, but I can see why it was so hugely praised back in the day. Innovative photography, dense narrative, unique structure. Seven Samurai was the same way for me - great movie, but I don't think it holds up well.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:15 pm

Kharn wrote:I knew someone would elect to disagree with me on [Dadaism].

My knowledge on Dadaism is pretty good, since it is a very Dutch-based form of art, and the point you make is valid, but not completely true. Dadaism's PURPOSE was to be anti-art, this is true. However, there's a large group of people, me included, who believe it failed in this purpose by or with becoming a widely respected form of art. Why was it a widely respected form of art? Because people said so, and that's exactly why it's the ultimate arts pour les arts.

It's a form of art because people agreed upon it being a form of art. How more "arts gratia artis" (if you wanna put it like that) CAN you get?

So you're not taking exception w/the movement itself, but rather people jumping on the bandwagon, or "the Emperor's new clothes" syndrome? That's a common thing, if rather unfortunate. You could draw parallels between Dadaism and Punk, both of which began as protest forms, but became popular and mainstream vehicles.

Kharn wrote:I can't, I forgot.

I guess you were right about your long term memory.

atoga wrote:Not all reneissance paintings are that great either, but simply because most people only see the best ones (in art galleries & such) they assume it's all very great and dandy. Which kind of pisses me off. Talk about a limited scope.

You could say the same thing about Elizabethan Literature. Quite a few people think that simply because the period produced Shakespeare that writers were somehow generally better back then. However there were scads of writers that quickly faded into obscurity who were more popular during their day than Shakespeare that they've never heard of.

Or, to get back to art, one might assume that Fauvism was all the rage during its day, when in fact the critics blasted it and other movements like it that are revered today, and the successful artists were making a bundle painting cutesy scenes of overflowing with cherubs.

OTB

Brother None · Post by **Brother None** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:11 pm

Subhuman wrote:Oh. See, Memento totally kicked my ass and is my favorite movie of all time. And I've seen a lot of movies, peeps.

I'm sure I should be impressed, somehow.

Sorry.

OTB wrote:So you're not taking exception w/the movement itself, but rather people jumping on the bandwagon, or "the Emperor's new clothes" syndrome? That's a common thing, if rather unfortunate. You could draw parallels between Dadaism and Punk, both of which began as protest forms, but became popular and mainstream vehicles.

Yip, that's basically it.

Jawz II · Post by **Jawz II** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:20 pm

AHHHHHH for crying out loud!

all this art talk makes my head hurt

my ears r bleeding right now

ok memento sucked!

geez

Brother None · Post by **Brother None** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:57 am

*bump*

http://www.briworld.com/ICarchives/ICg06.html

That works well as an example of my point.

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:39 pm

Cabin Fever

This is not, by my definiton at least, a horror movie. There are no stabbings, mutilations, strangulations, etc. All of the movie's deaths come either by way of death by virus, death by gun, or death by dog. And at no point in the movie was I even remotely scared. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, I was just expecting more horror elements to be in there. That's more or less how it was advertised, after all.

That being said, picture what it'd be like if Deliverance and Night of the Living Dead had hot sex and had a kid that was horribly malformed and had AIDS. Oh yeah, and it's pretty funny, too. Comedy is this movie's strongest point. It has some of those lines of dialouge that you're going to quote, such as: "What's the fox piss for?" "Foxes." "What's the rifle for?" "swell guy."

"Why are you hunting squirrels?" "Because they're gay."

"That's not funny." "Yes it is, you slut."

And so on. For all of the good lines and dialouge in this movie, I must say it has one of the shittiest endings I've ever seen. It tries to be funny, but I swear it's one of the cheesiest things I've ever seen.

The plot's pretty much by-the-books. Not necessarily by-the-horror-books like I was expecting, but just generic in general. Five college kids go to a cabin in the backwoods, they get a flesh eating virus. Then hillbillies try to kill them. That's it.

I can't say I recommend this movie. One of my friends recommended it to me, and as I was walking out of the theater I was saying to myself, "I should've seen that new Desperado movie." I'm sure it's worth a rental, but save your ten bucks for something decent.

Rating: 348

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:55 pm

The Believer

Did you know there are Jewish Nazis? Well there are. This movie's based on a true story (I'm guessing very loosely) about one of them. A little Jewboy is raised in a Jewish school in New York and he challenges all of the traditional teachings, and he ends up hating his own people. So much so that he ends up a neo Nazi in his late teens. He follows Jews on the subway and beats the shit out of them. He's just that hardcore. He doesn't really seem to minds blacks though.

Most of the movie takes place in the nineties in NYC, where the Jewzi (I think his name is David) joins up with a fascist movement as the spokesman to recruit followers. They have retreats in the country and talk about how Capitalism doesn't work and so on. And David gradually relearns to love his people again. Sob sob.

The acting in this movie is excellent, mostly from the main character and Billy Zane, and his Spanish girlfriend/whore whatever. I don't like when movies claim they're "based on a true story" then they seem unbelievable, like some of the plot points in this one do. Plus I found the ending to be very uninteresting and anticlimatic. For a movie I figured to be about hating Jews, I learned more about Jewish culture than I ever wanted to know. David is probably one of the pussiest Nazis I've ever seen.

As a drama, the movie's not too bad, if a little sappy. In that little niche of new age Nazi movies (American History X, Higher Learning) it's on the bottom of the food chain, though.

Rating: 421

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:03 pm

Identity

OK, this is a good movie. I rented this one last weekend and brought it to a friend's house where everyone was all high and drunk and have short attention spans anyway. Before it was two minutes in all I could hear was, "this movie sucks, let's play Tiger Woods." you know how it goes. But within the next five minutes it was, "Holy shit!" then silence. That's the sign of a good movie.

It's one of those who-done-it mysteries with alot of twists. It's starts off kind or Pulp Fictionesque telling like ten minutes or so of plot from different characters' perspectives. Then they throw in a serial killer about to go on death row and things get a bit more complicated. This one definitely throws you for loops. Just when you think, "durr, I get it!" You're wrong.

Out of all the horror movies I've watched recently, this one genuinely scared me the most. And it's not even a horror movie, so go figure. There's real emotion and mystery at work here. I really can't say too much more without giving away at least little pieces of it, and this is one of those movies where you want to go in fresh.

Go see it. Now.

Rating: 578

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:22 pm

Pulp Fiction

This is one of those movies I've probably seen about twenty times, but I didn't watch it recently until yesterday when it was on HBO. And now that I'm more patient, worldly, or whateverthefuck you want to call it, I appreciate it a whole lot more. Subtleties I didn't appreciate or understand two years ago I can now get and enjoy. And I thought this movie was perfect when I saw it when I was fourteen.

And if there ever was a perfect movie, it's this one. It's a nonstop laugh riot, but it maintains it's coolness throughout. It's got drama, it's got action, it's got sex, drugs, violence, ass rape, everything. And each piece of the masterpiece is given equal time and attention. It's just awesome.

This is a modern classic. Enough said. I'm not even going to get into the plot, because if you haven't seen this movie yet, you just suck at life. Period.

Rating: 666

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:28 pm

I'm still dying to see Cabin Fever. Screw your 348.

satanisgreat · Post by **satanisgreat** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:50 pm

Subhuman wrote:I'm still dying to see Cabin Fever. Screw your 348.

Hey, do whatever you want, but don't say I didn't warn you.

iohkus · Post by **iohkus** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:51 pm

"CABIN FEVER, CATCH IT!"

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:58 pm

A bit late to tell so, but Memento is one of my favorite movies of all time. It doesn't really matter to me what it strived to do, it was extremelly entertaining and that's what should count the most when you see the movie.

Analysis of what if offered to the art is always a matter you deal with in the following years. Still i do believe it offered to the art. for one it was refreshing to an ocean of dullness that is modern Hollywood(usually anyway).

Cheers,

Flamescreen

Jawz II · Post by **Jawz II** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:27 pm

hey look whos here!

hey flame long time no see amigo,where uve been at?

nice to see u r around

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:46 pm

What do you mean? I can always be found in the Tactics forums, where I'm a mod. I just can't hang out with the rest of the guys in the other forums. I have extreme time limitations now.

Edited for a misleading word correction.

Jawz II · Post by **Jawz II** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:42 pm

oh yeah sorry i forgot dood

i just reinstalled tactics,ill geo get the patch and then later maybe ill see if OTBs campaign is finished yet or not

take care homes

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:26 pm

Defending Your Life (Albert Brooks)

One of my favorite "Life after Death" movies..It could be considered a chick flick...But Albert Brooks isn't some sort of sexy beast, or anything...So let's just call it a Comedy.

Plot - Dude dies. Goes to Judgement City (limbo). Is judged on the actions he took in life whether or not to go to the next level of existence, or to go back to Earth and try again. He meets a chick...They fall in love...Judgement is passed..Then at the end, he proves he's brave enough to move onto the next level rather than go back to Earth. Lots of funny stuff...Plenty of one-liners.

If there's a real Judgement City out there, it'd kick ass to die.

Jawz II · Post by **Jawz II** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:46 pm

here are 2 war movies i rented a while back

when trumpets fade
about the battle of bulge and the western front ww2

a bright shining lie
about vietnam war

both are really good movies and both are from the mid 90s i think

ps.nice avatar subhuman,shirley manson has great legs

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:03 pm

care to go into any more detail extreme drinker, jawz2?

The boys from brazil

This movie is about this nazi doctor and some nazi assasins having to kill 94 civil servants all over the world that are age 60 for this experiment and this jewish nazi hunter trying to solve THA MYSTERY! I think it's set in the 60s. Anyway, it's pretty good, worth watching. I think it's a detective sci-fi thriller, a bit slow at the start but entertaining anyway.

Score: 435 or something.

Magnolia

I don't know what deep trombones or meanings I'm meant to get from this, but it was pretty good. Lasts 3 hours. It's about a day in the life of a bunch of people like a cop, a talk-show host, a dying man and some other people. Some funny parts and a monolouge that goes on for too long.

Score: 500?