Mad Max 4 Is NOT Dead

Rev · Post by **Rev** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:34 am

if mel isnt max then i wont waste my time seeing it when it comes out. Wouldnt beable to stand some no name playing the part of max.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:08 am

?? That's retarded, you want the fat christian Mel Gibson playing the new Max..? I'm sure he'll be in there as some old sage police chief (like Fifi!) but he's definitely not going to be the main young gun.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:54 am

Why couldn't he be? Don't people age in movies? He had white hair in Thunderdome, of course he's gonna look more agÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¨d now than he did in the other movies. I don't think the main character has to be young. Then again, maybe Max won't be the main character, they could go the Metal Gear Solid route and give us some dumbass secret main character and have Max in the movie a total of six minutes, enough in the intro to keep us seated and at the end, since they have the rights to use Mel in the movie anyway.[/list]

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:11 pm

Snake wrote:True but Mad Max happens right before the post apocalypse is in full effect
The decay of society and rise in chaos are the first signs
The sequels are set after post apocalypse

That depends on what your vision of a post-apocalyps is. In The Road Warrior it is explained that two nations went to war and dragged everybody else along, untill there was no more black fuel left. After that chaos followed as humankind began to pray on eachother, looting whatever was possible and speed-devils ruled the highways. Ample places maintained a form of 'governement and law' to protect the little that was left of civilisation. Max was such a protector when everything around them seemed to fall to pieces. When he drives off into the wasteland he leaves all that and his past behind him.

EDIT: And just now, I realised that was what you actually meant, no?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:50 pm

Mel Gibson has become bad. Religious piece of .... I've heard he's filming a movie about Jesus or something like that.

Mad Max 1 & 2 and Braveheart are his good movies, all others suck, except maybe Signs, it's O.K. I guess.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:33 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Mel Gibson has become bad. Religious piece of .... I've heard he's filming a movie about Jesus or something like that.

Who cares? And his "Passions" movie is supposed to be pretty good.

Mel is still playing the lead role in Mad Max 4. George Miller said he wouldn't do it without him.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:33 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote: Mad Max 1 & 2 and Braveheart are his good movies, all others suck, except maybe Signs, it's O.K. I guess.

I thought the original Lethal Weapon was pretty good.

InvisibleMonkey · Post by **InvisibleMonkey** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:45 am

I liked the Partiot, that was good, with the limbs flying off and stuff. Mel Gibson has alwas been a really hardcore Catholic, that does not mean he would suck in Mad Max 4, it's called acting.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:32 pm

Yea Lethal Weapon was good.

Patriot sucked tho. Pure damn american patriotism, with the black dude fighting side to side with racist mofos cause he loves his glorious country. The hell..

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:33 pm

Well that' s not true. His master signed him over so he didn' t have to participate himself (he was to old IIRC). Afterwards he stuck around 'cause he wanted to be free, well knowing that if the Brittish would win he would have fought for nothing.

Still, the film indeed is way too patriotic (as most US-army/action blockbusters are nowadays) and it reminds me to much of those old Russian and Chinese propaganda films, only with a little Tinseltown flavour added.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:21 pm

His religous movie is meant to be recorded in the original dialect and he had to be persuaded to add subtitles. crasy

I don't see why he can't be max, just very old and wearing a corset. WHATECER HACPPEND 2 FERAAL KD?

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:54 pm

Yeah, wasn't the church all hating on him for making the movie too dramatic? I wanna see christ get stabbed and stuff, that's gonna be leet. I don't really know if I want to watch it though. It is a religious movie after all. Shite.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:02 pm

I haven't heard about any flak from the Church over this movie, but rather that the Vatican has officially endorsed it.

The uproar has come many from groups like the Anti-Defamation League and other Jewish organizations, which fear that this film will be seen as an indictment of Jews for the death of Christ. I (obviously) haven't seen the film and son can't comment on it in particular, but I will say that Passion Plays have a long history of inciting pogroms in their wake.

As for film depictions of the life of Christ...well, we've come a long way since the days when they wouldn't even show Christ's face, or when the League for Catholic decency lobbied to get scenes cut from the ending sequence of Spartacus that showed Kirk Douglas' face after his character had been crucified...

OTB

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:46 pm

OTB, most of the people speaking out about the film haven't seen it either.

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:47 am

Killzig wrote:OTB, most of the people speaking out about the film haven't seen it either.

Yup, which pretty much puts this film in the same company as Lady Chadderly's Lover and Lolita, I suppose. Or, to put it another way, a right-winger's Last Temptation of Christ...

OTB

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:03 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:Patriot sucked tho. Pure damn american patriotism, with the black dude fighting side to side with racist mofos cause he loves his glorious country. The hell..

Actually isn't all that far-fetched. It happened during the Civil War.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:20 am

Calal wrote: Still, the film indeed is way too patriotic (as most US-army/action blockbusters are nowadays) and it reminds me to much of those old Russian and Chinese propaganda films, only with a little Tinseltown flavour added.

Could you be a little more specific? It was historical fiction, so you can't really debate how accurate the characters are because they didn't exist.

Generally it was pretty good. The beginning of the movie they're all debating about whether they should go to war or not. Mel's character was saying stuff like how the war would be fought in their homes and shit. Lots of people back then took that argument. I think Thomas Jefferson, the guy who wrote the declaration of independence opposed war. That's like the first half of The Patriot. Then the guy loses his family and he's pissed. More people get pissed because they lost family to the British as well. Everybody wanted revenge. That's how it happened.
How is it "too patriotic"? Do you even know what you're talking about? If you mean it like they wanted to kill every British soldier that came a long, then you obviously never saw the movie.

If you're gonna bitch about patriotism, take a look at Braveheart. It doesn't get more patriotic than that. Is Scottish patriotism somehow more valid than American patriotism? I guess it's too shocking for the rest of the world when they see a war movie that isn't about Vietnam and Americans actually believe in what they're fighting for. Or maybe you're a few stupid kids who don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:38 am

OnTheBounce wrote:I haven't heard about any flak from the Church over this movie, but rather that the Vatican has officially endorsed it.

In time magazine a couple of weeks ago they were talking about how some priests were po'd cause it was breaking some rules set up about not dramatizing the crucifiction and all that. They weren't rules so much as general guidelines that Mel didn't feel he should follow. ++ for that, or something.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:41 am

if it was accurate wouldn't the cross be T shaped but it's traditionally + shaped omg mel WATRUGONNADO?

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:22 pm

I know what Mel can do!

Winxx.