Troika's Next?

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:28 pm

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<html><body>It doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t look like everybody will get there wish for a <A HREF=http://www.troikagames.com/ target=_blank>Troika</A>-made Fallout 3, but we might get the next best thing: an original post apocalyptic style game. The homepage for <A HREF=http://www.cglenn.com/ target=_blank>Chris Glenn</A>, a <A HREF=http://www.troikagames.com/ target=_blank>Troika Games</A> concept artist, has several very interesting pieces of work.<blockquote><center><A HREF=http://www.cglenn.com/images/2d/post_01_b.jpg target=_blank><img src=/madmaxrw/postapoc1a.jpg></A> <A HREF=http://www.cglenn.com/images/2d/post_02_b.jpg target=_blank><img src=/madmaxrw/postapoc2a.jpg></A></center></blockquote><blockquote><center><A HREF=http://www.cglenn.com/images/2d/post_03_b.jpg target=_blank><img src=/madmaxrw/postapoc3a.jpg></A> <A HREF=http://www.cglenn.com/images/2d/post_04_b.jpg target=_blank><img src=/madmaxrw/postapoc4a.jpg></A></center></blockquote>I canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t wait to see what theyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re cooking up. Spotted at <A HREF=http://www.nma-fallout.com target=_blank>NMA</A>.</body></html>

Hammer · Post by **Hammer** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:07 pm

I misread it and thought it said Trokia will be making FO3 - but this is just as good.

Bridgeburner · Post by **Bridgeburner** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:20 pm

looks very promising

chris glenns work rocks. i also really liked what he did for greyhawk

Finch · Post by **Finch** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:38 pm

Looking good. I noticed two things:

1.) If you go to Chris Glenn's actual site, he gives a description of each of his pictures. Underneath those four, it is labeled Post-Apoc, followed by a number, with the description "Series of concepts revolving around a barren location. Can't say too much about it."

2.) Probably a less significant observation, but none-the-less interesting. In the third picture, if you look at the pointy structure in the background, you'll notice that it is reminiscent of the completely unique Chrystler Building in New York City.

Hopefully this is a sign that the Post-Apoc genre is getting new life breathed into it.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:40 pm

not for sure if it's post-apoc, like..it has trees...and stuff :O

Grimnar · Post by **Grimnar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:07 pm

Fallout had lots of trees in some areas, it wasnt all barren wasteland ...
Looking at the size of some trees in the concepts, maybe mutation is an option?

First thing that came to mind was that the monklike figure is replanting the earth or something

some plants really look out of place

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:55 pm

It appears to be more fantasy than post-nuke, given the *happily living* trees and the warm blue skies. Still, whatever this is for, it looks promising.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:12 pm

I'm hoping it's going to be cyberpunk or something.

I like the tree pic, nice colours and stuff, some of the trees in the distance look pretty big. This game looks more prehistoric than post-apocalypse WHOOOO BIZARRO

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:16 pm

atoga wrote:It appears to be more fantasy than post-nuke, given the *happily living* trees and the warm blue skies. Still, whatever this is for, it looks promising.

That's just one image. The rest is barren. And those trees look mighty big. You need some nice good ol radiation to get such trees.

Damn this looks good! Let's see more of this.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:20 pm

Not giant, lush trees and postcard blue skies. It looks more prehistoric than anything.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:28 pm

radiation for big trees?

I like fallout but I don't want an exact copy with giant trees and ancient looking roads and stuff. One screen has green looking plains with rivers and stuff, so I doubt that's exactly radioactive. And the creatures on pic #2 don't really look like mutants. The desert dude on the guys site also looks pretty..dune-line. Not a scrap of leather on him, so it can't be post-apocalyptic or something :O bizarro.

By the time this game comes out I think we'll have enough post-apoc stuff to be playing. Look at all the games announced. Looking at the trees and sky, this game looks more wilder and alive than a wasteland? I dunno.

Grimnar · Post by **Grimnar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:00 pm

No your'e right, the "cow" with an insect head on the second to the right doesnt look at all mutated

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:21 pm

Well, I you'll be able to ask all these questions and more during RPGCodex's upcoming Troika dev chat. Just show up in #rpgcodex on GamesNet on Tuesday at 8 PM EST.

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:38 pm

Just to correct something: I DONT want a Troika made Fallout 3. I'm quite happy with BIS doing it, the only disadvantage being interplay's restrictions of Real Time and Multiplayer. Whilst Troika's games clearly are good, neighter Arcanum or ToEE have grabbed me. Arcanum had lots of promise but ultimately was (severely) flawed, ToEE.. .well I just don't like D&D. My FO3 developer wish list, I think, would rank BIS or Obsidian as number 1 as they currently stand, then Troika after that at number 2. Obsidian has MCA and other BIS veterans but I'm not sure how much I would trust Feargus with FO3. Whereas I think JE Sawyer and the other BIS people are pretty clued in about what would make a good Fallout sequal.

bloodbathmaster2 · Post by **bloodbathmaster2** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:29 am

Mr. Teatime wrote:I think JE Sawyer and the other BIS people are pretty clued in about what would make a good Fallout sequal.

There are some people here who might not agree. Personally, I'm looking forward to FRESH post-apoc material.

Look! There's more!(?)

Calal · Post by **Calal** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:39 am

Indeed, might break away all the tension around FO3, not to mention the nightmares I' m having where there' s akimbo rules and prostitutes in every random encounter for FO3.

Did anyone ever think of the possibility that they might break away from our familiorised nuclear post-apocalyptic setting and settle for something more, let' s say, unconventional. Something like a widespread virus or plague (not like the New Plague)? It doesn' t necessarily need to have A or H-bomb blowing the earth to pieces. Mad Max' s universe didn' t need a nuclear apocalyps and it still got wastes, dunes and ruins.

Wow, nice art there BB2.

Ghetto Goose · Post by **Ghetto Goose** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:53 am

Amazering. I'm all giddy now! I'm goin to that dev chat.

Insane-Lark · Post by **Insane-Lark** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:32 am

Looks like it might be science fiction to me there is an air of a ruined civilization with the broken roadways & shattered buildings. Who is to say if it is ours or any relation to ours? The creature & trees could be mutations or could be entirely alien in nature. Time will tell on the project yet the concept ideas do look promising.

spyder07 · Post by **spyder07** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:33 am

Calal wrote:Indeed, might break away all the tension around FO3, not to mention the nightmares I' m having where there' s akimbo rules and prostitutes in every random encounter for FO3.

Did anyone ever think of the possibility that they might break away from our familiorised nuclear post-apocalyptic setting and settle for something more, let' s say, unconventional. Something like a widespread virus or plague (not like the New Plague)? It doesn' t necessarily need to have A or H-bomb blowing the earth to pieces. Mad Max' s universe didn' t need a nuclear apocalyps and it still got wastes, dunes and ruins.

Wow, nice art there BB2.

Yeah um you ever seen beyond the thuderdome? Watch it and get the facts right.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:56 am

Yeah, anyway, most Post-Apoc isn't barren nuked out wastelands. Most post-apoc is actually just the decline of human civilization, ala social collapse or virus. It doesn't even make sense for an entire world to be turned into a desert by nukes, if no plants can live, no matter how adaptive they are, people really aren't gonna be able to live there either - especially with only old, broken technology to work with. So don't go complaining that trees aren't post apoc, green, lush trees aren't Fallout post apoc, and they aren't Mad Max post apoc (even though, who's to say the whole world is like that in MM? Since when does the whole world look like any one place? That desert he's in is really that size irl, so, why does it have to be the way it is because of the war?).

That said, I can't wait, it looks ++ from what I see so far. As long as it's a mature well written game, then I'm all for it.