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Megatron wrote:What if you were attacked by a bunch of people who kicked all your teeth out and raped your girlfriend? What then eh TRAVIS BICKLE?
Well that would suck. And id probaly wish I had a gun.... so I could shot the nads off the pricks doing something like that.

There. I said it. Arghh.

Of course you are all right.. violence is unstopable and natural human behavior.

But.. its just not fair, you know? I gota believe theres something better than that, even though I know there just aint.
the guardian wrote:Making the world a better place, yeah, ok. Sounds like you're chanting a governement film though, "no guns-better world". All that's missing are 100 children from different nationalities, all holding hands together and forming a circle, oh, and a catchy emotional song.
Yeah, I know. Isnt it sad.... :oops:
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Do you even KNOW what a spine is?
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But.. its just not fair, you know? I gota believe theres something better than that, even though I know there just aint.
Most people who figure that out become religious and whatnot, due to the hope of a better life after this. Others, myself included, just get all misanthropic and read Exit Mundi for comfort.
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while I don't really care and say LOLLERIFIC!
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the guardian wrote:Do you even KNOW what a spine is?
Hehe. Youre such a funny guy guardian.
Slave_Master wrote:Most people who figure that out become religious and whatnot, due to the hope of a better life after this. Others, myself included, just get all misanthropic and read Exit Mundi for comfort.
Oh well, im not gona turn religious anytime soon. I spent about 1½ hour today tearing apart the faith of a girl from my class, by pointing out all the holes in the bible and the general stupidity of religion as an institution. I almost felt sorry for her... O well.
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why? Do you tell little kids that santa doesn't exist too?
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Megatron wrote:why? Do you tell little kids that santa doesn't exist too?
No, not really... sometimes id like too though. Cuz its not fair that those little kids live in a fantasy world when im trapped in the very real and shitty world of REALITY!!!! Crap. I never did anything like that though... I dont have the cruelty in me =). Im sure you do though.
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Megatron wrote:why? Do you tell little kids that santa doesn't exist too?
No, not really... sometimes id like too though. Cuz its not fair that those little kids live in a fantasy world when im trapped in the very real and shitty world of REALITY!!!! Crap. I never did anything like that though... I dont have the cruelty in me =). Im sure you do though.
Once I was in mall and I yelled at these kids "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?! SANTA IS AN ILLUSION CAST OVER YOUR EYES BY YOUR PARENTS TO MAKE YOU OBEDIENT!" crasy
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Slave_Master wrote:Once I was in mall and I yelled at these kids "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?! SANTA IS AN ILLUSION CAST OVER YOUR EYES BY YOUR PARENTS TO MAKE YOU OBEDIENT!" crasy
How abusive! Did anyone of them cry?
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Megatron wrote:why? Do you tell little kids that santa doesn't exist too?
No, not really... sometimes id like too though. Cuz its not fair that those little kids live in a fantasy world when im trapped in the very real and shitty world of REALITY!!!! Crap. I never did anything like that though... I dont have the cruelty in me =). Im sure you do though.
So why did you destroy a girls whole idea of living just because you didn't agree with her views? Your philosophy on guns might be a small part of your life, while religeon plays a major part in some peoples lives. Mainly to be an excuse, but still a major part. On the other hand I'm being SATANS AVACADO :twiztid:

I'm not cruel, I don't remember doing anything to hurt anybody recently? Not even call anybody names, I don't even step on slugs. How christian.
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Megatron wrote:So why did you destroy a girls whole idea of living just because you didn't agree with her views? Your philosophy on guns might be a small part of your life, while religeon plays a major part in some peoples lives. Mainly to be an excuse, but still a major part. On the other hand I'm being SATANS AVACADO :twiztid:.
Well.. It wasnt that bad you know. She didnt cry or anything.. but im pretty sure she was struggeling to maintain a foothold on logic towards the end...
Megatron wrote:I'm not cruel, I don't remember doing anything to hurt anybody recently? Not even call anybody names, I don't even step on slugs. How christian.
I feel bad when I accidently step on snails....

I smack moqusitos and spiders without hesitation though. Because they annoy me like hell.. spiders evn scare me.. if they get the advantage of surprise....
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Oh well, im not gona turn religious anytime soon. I spent about 1½ hour today tearing apart the faith of a girl from my class, by pointing out all the holes in the bible and the general stupidity of religion as an institution. I almost felt sorry for her... O well.
Ha ha ha! somehow after reading this I doubt you could tear anyones faith apart. comon you got your ass handed to you my freind. probably did with the girl in your class too. You come in here and talk about trying to have a peaceful world where only criminals have guns. Ok Mr Smart One. :roll: And you talk about having a peaceful world, well mabey you could try being less of an ass and tearing down what somone believes in.
oh and and what are these holes in the Bible? book chapter and verse would be apreciated. Cause I have not read much of the Bible so I can't tell if you will be pulling these holes out of your ass. and yes I know I am being an ass but I am not the one who believes a peaceful world can exist.
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thats pretty weird. you feel bad when you step on slugs but dont feel anything when you kills spiders and such?

and anyways religion is a crutch for the weak and obedient.

EDIT: you can never have a peaceful world unless all humanity is gone.

and you cant tear holes in the bible because parts of it actually happened somewhere in history even tho it may not be as depicted.
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oh and shrike, you are a moron. you can never have a peaceful world unless all humanity is gone.
hello I never said I believed that a peaceful world was possible. That is what 46&2 belives in or would like to believe in.
and yes I know I am being an ass but I am not the one who believes a peaceful world can exist.
also use the quote button. That way we know if you are replying to a post that is earlier in the thread.
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yah i meant to remove that.
Blargh wrote:While the way in which the stance is made could be done with at least a pretense of civility - being far more conducive to others actually paying attention than copious swearing - it just wouldn't be Mandy otherwise.
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and anyways religion is a crutch for the weak and obedient.
You could say the same about governments? advertising? Anything?
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The Shrike wrote:Ha ha ha! somehow after reading this I doubt you could tear anyones faith apart. comon you got your ass handed to you my freind. probably did with the girl in your class too. You come in here and talk about trying to have a peaceful world where only criminals have guns. Ok Mr Smart One. :roll: And you talk about having a peaceful world, well mabey you could try being less of an ass and tearing down what somone believes in. oh and and what are these holes in the Bible? book chapter and verse would be apreciated. Cause I have not read much of the Bible so I can't tell if you will be pulling these holes out of your ass. and yes I know I am being an ass but I am not the one who believes a peaceful world can exist.
Oh believe me, I did. I wasnt cruel to her or insulted her in any personel way. You see, shes actually a pretty nice person, and actually, oh no, my friend! I just shot every argument she had on the truth and legitimacy of the bible and gods word as handed down by humans.

I didnt excatly quote the bible, I never read much of it, but I questioned the reliability of the bible. I asked how the hell anyone could know for certain that the words in the bible were actually gods spoken word. I mean, its been more then 2000 years and noone has an original bible. Altough there are runestones or whatnot with religious inscribings you can never truely prove that they are autenthic and on top of that, prove that they were written by true believers. So of course she just uses the same old excuse "I dont need evidence, I can feel that they are true!!" So I asked her why she needed the bible for confirming what she knew and felt for a fact. Well she had a pretty hard time explaining that and gave up in the end.

Personally if I was religious I would not heed any written or spoken sentiment about god, I would simply believe in the feeling im supposed to have because god loves me and me loving me back (Yeah, right...) but it seems more sensible than believing in an institution which has abused millions of poor people up through time by using god and their religion as a justification for killing people who are not like them or just dont believe in god.

Then we had a little discussion about the nature of god.God is supposed to be allknowing, almighty and the kindest mofo around, right? Well how come, us being the children of god, are mean motherfuckers. If we share just a little bit of character with god, which should be obvious from the statement "And god created man in his own image." God cannot be good and kind. This girl from my class said that, oh no, "you just have to ask for help and god will help you!" But fact is alot of people pray for their lives before dying and im pretty sure alot of them die anyhow. Also how can someone who lets all the cruelty of human kind go by without making a difference be kind and nice and good??? He even created this place for suffering and pain. There are plenty of contradictions and ilogic reasoning in what most religious people base their faith on. I brought up other points and I could bring up alot more to her, but I went home instead.
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yes mega you could say anything is a crutch but overall religion is a larger crutch for people than any others with the exception of drugs.

most religious people need to feel loved by god or they cant function right.
most drug users are useless sacks of shit that should be shot nazi style.
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Not really? I'm sure everyone has something they need; family, religeon, drugs, friends. You could argue each is useless and we're all too dependant on material things, but does it really matter? If someone is happy shooting up and wasting a few hours, why stop her? If someone is happy owning a lot of guns, why take it away from him? Sure there's a danger but if you wanted to live in a world without danger, you wouldn't be living.

I don't think of myself as a religious person, but I believe in a god. If you question something with a goal in mind, you'll find it. I'm sure we could point out holes in our day-to-day living, but why bother? I dunno, very pointless and kubrick.
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Oh believe me, I did. I wasnt cruel to her or insulted her in any personel way. You see, shes actually a pretty nice person, and actually, oh no, my friend! I just shot every argument she had on the truth and legitimacy of the bible and gods word as handed down by humans.
Ok Forty-six & Two. I was kind pissed because it sounded like you ripped her a new one. As long as you did not then thats cool. I apologize for being harsh.
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