Our tax dollars at work

MurPHy · Post by **MurPHy** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:01 pm

Murphy, you are such a meatbag (dixit Exitium)
Your blind socialism hating is stupid.

Nah, I just watch the HistoryChannel too much.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:12 pm

And like said before, communism isn't what the dictators of Soviet Union made out of their nation. It was their flawed interprention, no more.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:45 pm

Yea, stop judging large concepts like communism or socialism by looking at the few corrupted attempt at making it glorious.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:58 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Yea, stop judging large concepts like communism or socialism by looking at the few corrupted attempt at making it glorious.

I'm sorry, I think you meant to say "every significant attempt" rather than "few corrupted attempt".

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:46 pm

What's the difference? If you go by *significant* attempts, seriously, how many have there been? Realistically, very few. So either way you can't be the judge of that if you look at history alone.

Communism does suck though (cue Churchhill quote which I can't exactly remember).

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:50 pm

Well, let's see...

Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Cambodia...

How many millions of 'class enemies' need to be slaughtered before we can say Communism has had its fair chance?

Forty-six & Two · Post by **Forty-six & Two** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:58 pm

Communism is flawed all the way back to Marxism. And you know what that flaw is called? Being human!

Radoteur · Post by **Radoteur** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:13 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:Murphy, you are such a meatbag (dixit Exitium)
Your blind socialism hating is stupid.

Your socialism loving isn't?

I just reread this article and I have no idea what you guys are bothered about. This is in it's extremely early preliminary stages. It's not like "OMG the army is wasting billions of dollars riding around on Segways!" I mean, they are doing this work in universities, and it's a smaller part of a much larger project and might not even be used. It looks to me that they are just doing some deep exploring into possible military applications. They aren't actually designing and manufacturing standing two wheeled bringers of death! This article just emphasises the Segway part of it. Of course, they aren't going to have machine gun mounted Segways. When they start doing more hardcore military applications, real combat and stuff, I think they might turn it over to DARPA, but I'm not sure. The army enlists the help of universities all the time. I mean, wasn't Johnathan Nash helping the NSA break codes for a while? I guess in the movie they built upon some real consulting and turned it into hulluciations. I really don't know.
Getting the robots to do something more civilian minded, like playing soccer, will help develop the robot's capabilities, while at the same time freeing the scientist's consciences. These scientists probably aren't gungho. I think it makes it funner for the scientists, and they don't have to worry about guns or any military violence type things, they just get the bots to play soccer. Everyone wins, because if the robots are developed to have the skills play soccer, they'll be able to play a part in team-based tactics.