Console Games

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:40 pm

Final Fantasy is great, IMHO.

And a PS2 in Canada is 219$ CDN, I'm buying one next weekend

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:25 pm

BlackDog wrote:[Take a loaded gun, put it to your head, pull the trigger...

Society shall be better off afterwards!

:badgrin:

:roll: LOL! YOU FUNNY :roll:

..I don't need to have a little black Linux sitting under my TV.

It would be pretty handy as a server, 200 bucks aint too much

Phias · Post by **Phias** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:39 pm

Most console games seem to lack any plot or engaging story. Some, however rise above, but the only games I can see that are worthy of mention are Halo and Vice City.

I'm hoping that the quality of console games rises soon, because I'm wasting fifty bucks on a game I'll play for one day.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:51 pm

I still like Ico for ps2, it doesn't have much in the way of plot or story, but neither does a lot of art. That's all I look at the game as - art. It's beautiful, and that's why I love it.

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:41 pm

I can recommend good GC games?

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:24 am

the guardian wrote:I can recommend good GC games?

Same here. Anyways, for PS2, try Tekken and Virtua Fighter for fighting games. I've heard good things about Disgaea, but other than that shy from the RPGs (Final Fantasy X had the worst story ever, though the battle system wasn't too bad). For adventure games, Jak and Daxter and Jak II are where it's at, both excellent in their own right...for flight sims, Ace Combat 4's the best flight sim ever hands down I won't believe otherwise k thnx. Racing...hmmm...uh, lately console racing games haven't grabbed my attention--the last one I really liked was Ridge Racer 4. If you can find a copy, Looney Tunes Space Race is pretty fun.

I'd recommend a Gamecube--if you can get it for $100 bucks. If not, wait until at least $150, then buy F-Zero GX; that's a great fucking racing game. I like Viewtiful Joe (it's a little gay, but it's balanced out because you beat the shit out of everything), and Metroid Prime is surprisingly good (I'd like a mouse and keyboard, but the controller interface isn't as clunky as one would imagine). These are all off the top of my head, mind you. In any case, I suggest looking around, either online or at game stores, and seeing what the market's like.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:36 am

I never got why people praise the Xbox it's all American hillbilly games on, with the only good ones being Halo, and um ya like Halo. Gamcube and PS2 are far better with all the big names and stuff, GC is so much of a steal it's not even funny $100 bucks and a lot of high quality nintendo stuff. Mario Kart just came out on it too, and who doesn't love mario kart?

Who ever recommended Metal Gear 2, dont get it, it's trash. Stupid story, stupid characters, with decent gameplay.

I dont really play the consoles anymore though, but this is the stuff i wuld go with if i was still interested.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:52 am

No Nintendo pretty much just targets little kids nowadays. And don't try to name examples of "older target audience" games, because I'll counter with far more examples of little kiddy games.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:16 am

Erm... So, is this like matter and anti-matter here? The existance of a kid-friendly game cancels out the existance of a specifically adult-oriented game?

Whatever bizarre logic you try to use, the GC has a lot of good games. It's a great deal at $100.

SeanDMan · Post by **SeanDMan** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:29 am

GC markets too much to kids. Compare Ocarina of Time to Wind Waker, it's been extremely dumbed down. They started with Mario 64 which my parents played and then made Yoshi Island. They went from that to Sunshine, from Ocarina to Majoras Mask to Wind Waker. It's all sliding downhill if you're a teenager.

Metroid Prime is just a bad shooter. If you want to play FPS, don't buy a Gamecube. Agent Under Fire sucks, and chances are most ported games like it will suck too.

Haven't played GX.

Playing Legend of Zelda Collectors Edition is awesome. It's my favourite game ATM, ASB is good, SMS, WMXIX, thats pretty much it. I would get a PC and a gamepad since you can get Vice City on PC, and all the good FPS games. But I like my Gamecube, childlike it may be, and play it more often than the PC.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:10 am

SeanDMan wrote:GC markets too much to kids. Compare Ocarina of Time to Wind Waker, it's been extremely dumbed down. They started with Mario 64 which my parents played and then made Yoshi Island. They went from that to Sunshine, from Ocarina to Majoras Mask to Wind Waker. It's all sliding downhill if you're a teenager.

Metroid Prime is just a bad shooter. If you want to play FPS, don't buy a Gamecube. Agent Under Fire sucks, and chances are most ported games like it will suck too.

Haven't played GX.

Just because the art's a little simpler it hasn't been "dumbed down"; it plays much like Ocarina of Time and looks a hell of a lot better. (Link's not some one earring wearing swell guy in leotards, he's a twelve year old kid with pants) Metroid Prime's a great looking game with a great story and it plays just fine. Just because a game isn't filled to the brim with ANGST ANGST WHINE doesn't mean it's bad--the games may have simple plots but they're all well done. Your complaints are not only unfounded, they're asinine. THUMBS UP. As for GX: if you've played Wipeout, it's like that on steroids. Faster, harder, better...my only complaint is the characters themselves look ridiculous, but you get over it since you never really see them outside of story mode anyways. And yes, MGS2 sucked just skip over it and get Splinter Cell or something. Someone mentioned Ico, and I'm glad; real strange game. No understandable dialogue, weird plot, almost entirely puzzles...but very fun and years later it's still one of the best looking games out there. Like I said before, look around and see what's on the market. Consoles are just like PCs: there's good games and there's bad games and you have to have the ability to discern between the two.

SeanDMan · Post by **SeanDMan** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:45 am

Just because the art's a little simpler it hasn't been "dumbed down"; it plays much like Ocarina of Time and looks a hell of a lot better. (Link's not some one earring wearing swell guy in leotards, he's a twelve year old kid with pants)

One: I don't like the art style, but thats an opinion. The real reason I say Wind Waker is dumbed down is because it is; OoT was pretty dumb too. It was linear, and all the puzzles were pretty simple, and then you hit the water temple and the shadow temple and it basically wasn't even the same game. Wind Waker is like the OoT section I found the most boring; the linear, "if you picked up an item use it everywhere you can it's called a puzzle umkay", silly portion you spent as a child. And Majora's Mask I disliked for the same reason.

Two: To be fair, I haven't played all the way through any of the Zelda games, not even OoT. I'm basing my opinions on what I have played of them, and Wind Waker definitely got the shortest shake of the stick.

Three: Whats wrong with leotards?

Metroid Prime's a great looking game with a great story and it plays just fine.

One: It looks great. The visual lighting and explosive effects are top notch IMO.

Two: It does not play fine. A controller serious hampers the scrool speed, because the analog stick is never as sensitive as an optical mouse and is less configurable. It suffers from the same problems 007:AUF does: you can't hit shit. It compensates with a lock on, and now you can't miss shit. The game isn't fun; it just isn't. I'm not bashing it, I have played it quite a bit, I just didn't like it.

Just because a game isn't filled to the brim with ANGST ANGST WHINE doesn't mean it's bad--the games may have simple plots but they're all well done. Your complaints are not only unfounded, they're asinine.

I also said this:

But I like my Gamecube, childlike it may be, and play it more often than the PC.

Theres a reason. I agree that even with simple plots and marketting to kids, games like SSB (which I forgot to list earlier), SMS, WMXIX, are all fucking fun to play, ecspecially with friends. I don't downplay the amount of work that went into the games, or the end resulting play mechanics: only the marketting decisions that led to them persuing such a childish plot and feel.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:05 pm

I've never really been one to get hung up over where a product is aimed--childs, adults, there's only one requirement for me: is the game fun or not. Who cares if it's a little "kiddy"; Nintendo's almost always marketed to a younger audience anyways. But yeah, kiddy or not a lot of GC games are just fucking fun. I liked Metroid Prime--the control isn't flawless (I said before that a mouse and keyboard are sorely missed) but for an FPS on a console it does well and I still had fun playing it even with a lock-on feature. I didn't play all the way through Wind Waker, myself, but I thought it looked great...though there were some tedious parts (no fucking reason to make the ocean that big).

SeanDMan · Post by **SeanDMan** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:36 pm

If they were going to have Prime play like it did, they might as well just have made it 3rd person.

Agree on the ocean.

And I find myself caring less about a game, no matter how fun it is, when my character screams for his mommy when hit. It's slightly lame.

Doyle · Post by **Doyle** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:06 pm

Erm... I don't think you understand what Metroid Prime is, Sean. It's not a first-person shooter like Agent Under Fire, it's a Metroid game. The point of the game isn't the fighting, it's exploration and getting new equipment to solve puzzles. When I picked up the controller, I was shocked at how similiarly the game actually played to Super Metroid on the SNES. Despite being in first person, it still played like an adventure game.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:35 pm

Vice City, Soul Calibur II, Virtua Fighter 4 Evo, SSX 3, and Ico are great PS2 games. I don't own a GC or Xbox, but I want a GC, if only for Resident Evil.

the guardian · Post by **the guardian** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:27 am

Yeah, RE remasted was pretty fun. RE0 is pretty fucking hard though, bloody liches.

Games I can recommend that you dumb bitches haven't:

Eternal Darkness
Super Smash Bros:Melee(why else would you buy a GC?)
Hunter:The Reckoning
Sonic Adventure 2

And I suppose there's more, but I'm having difficulties remembering things lately... I'll add some more names later on.

BlackDog · Post by **BlackDog** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:26 pm

Kashluk wrote:Hello Eminem, good to see your back here with us.

Hello ignorant dumbass. Good to see you aren't a real post-apoc fan and have no knowledge who that is in my avatar.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:16 pm

Post-apoc fandom aside, it's a simple matter of discerning shit games from good when it comes to Devastation, Slim Shady.