Academy Awards 2004

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

So you're one of those that watched the first movie for 10 minutes, and then got up and left? Maybe most people that like the movies have read the books? Hmm.. I just don't understand why some people don't like the LOTR movies. Is it because its not nasty and doesn't have gobs of foul language?

No. We don't like them because:

a) They suck.
b) They're overrated.
c) They suck. Again. Some more.

I liked Fellowship just fine, but The Two Towers was overstuffed, boring, self-important, and just generally a waste of time. I have absolutely no desire to see Return of the King, no matter how many people say it's the best in the trilogy.

I thought Kill Bill was one of the years best, but Killzig thought the blood looked fake. heh.

Killzig doesn't get it. No suprise there.

thats because gladiator was a more enjoyable movie that oh, black OH SHIT I HEAR THE ICE CREAM TRUCK!!!!!111!1111oneone, where art thou?

Almost Famous was fantastic, and totally robbed. Gladiator sucked donkey. Crouching Tiger should have won. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, dammit!

I'm rooting for Mystic River this year, even though I haven't seen it. (I read the book, though, and it was amazing.)

you have shit for movie taste repressed closet homosexual. the blood in kill bill does look uber fake. i sat and laughed through the most gory parts because it was hilarious. it wasnt the best because it wasnt anything more than a violence fest so accept it for what it is. i liked it but i like violence the story was shit.
that fucking toe wiggling scene reminds me of the whole bruce willis pot belly conversation in pulp fiction. everyone knows how fucking tedious and annoying that is.

as i said ive never seen almost famous because i thought it would suck. gladiator was good even tho it had its boring points and crounching tiger was alright if you like jap movies. that whole running across the roof thing was fake as shit and it ruined the movie for me.


the lord of the rings were good movies for what they were. the fellowship was the most tedious one. the last 2 were the best because the combat scenes were hardcore.
since you think kill bill is the be all end all i can see how you hate movies where you might have to sit and watch something with a little more story than "me want kill bill, me kill other people too".

[Menno]

You must have really pissed of Mandalorian for him to repeat his reponse several times.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

fuck my shitty internet someone delete those because apparently i cant.

[The Gaijin]

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was Chinese, dick. Although I will agree that the floating from rooftops shit was completely retarded and unwarranted.

Gladiator was okay, and the last two LotR's aren't too bad...I don't know, I prefer Braveheart. William Wallace would stomp the shit out of Frodo Baggins. And I refuse to see Kill Bill on the grounds that you can't make me believe Uma Thurman's a competent assassin, nor am I willing to stomach a poorly made fifteen minute anime interlude.

Eh, like just about everybody's said, the Academy's complete bullshit.

[OnTheBounce]

fuck my shitty internet someone delete those because apparently i cant.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Or something.

OTB

[atoga]

since you think kill bill is the be all end all i can see how you hate movies where you might have to sit and watch something with a little more story than "me want kill bill, me kill other people too".

Isn't that a little hypocritical? You say Kill Bill is shitty because it's plotless, and then complain about the boring, non-action-intensive scenes in other movies (Gladiator, LotR) while still giving them high praise. Kill Bill excels because it's a quiet, no-shit action movie. It doesn't take itself seriously and because of that it's good. LotR and Gladiator, on the other hand, like to revel in the bullshit.

[Guest]

Mandalorian, shut up.

I enjoyed Kill Bill because I like movies that are filled to the brim with mindless violence. Trying to justify that mindless violence by injecting deep meaning that only the most clever of film connoisseurs would get into the movie is, to use a colloquialism, bullshit.

Excuse me, but let's stick to what I actually said and not leap across the Grand Canyon to conclusions. I never said there was anything even remotely "deep" about Kill Bill - you'd have to be crazier than I am to think that. I'm saying that Kill Bill is supposed to be fake, over-the-top, cheesy, and what have you, because that's what the film's inspirations (ie. grindhouse films) are like. And from what Killzig said (apparently misquoted, but whatever), it sounds like he's nitpicking about something that's actually intentional. Duh, the blood looks fake. That's the point.

It's fine if Kill Bill ain't your cup of tea; it's not the kind of movie that will please everyone. We could argue about its originality, and you're right when you say there is very little, but again, that's the point. It's the ultimate ripoff movie, but it uses its ripoffs so well that it becomes a very enjoyable film in its own right. At least that's my opinion.

[Wolfman Walt]

You say Kill Bill is shitty because it's plotless, and then complain about the boring, non-action-intensive scenes in other movies (Gladiator, LotR) while still giving them high praise.

Maybe he should be a game reviewer?

[atoga]

atoga wrote:

You say Kill Bill is shitty because it's plotless, and then complain about the boring, non-action-intensive scenes in other movies (Gladiator, LotR) while still giving them high praise.


Maybe he should be a game reviewer?

Yeah, maybe, but he'd need to be a little more foul-mouthed and homophobic.

[Wolfman Walt]

Is that possible?

[Killzig]

yes. so let me make this film as horribly over the top as possible so that idiot film students/AICN readers will think its great! YAY!

I could see how some might interpret the film as fun but frankly I get bored watching a neverending battle that I have absolutely no connection with. Whether it be some sort of empathy with one of the players involved, or interest in a story hinging on the outcome of said conflict, I need some sort of connection to be entertained by the fight scene. Same reason why I hated the matrix. Doesn't matter how good the fighting looks or how comically bad it looks. Its totally superfluous and to me it just seems to defeat the purpose of film/the art of story telling in general.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

Isn't that a little hypocritical? You say Kill Bill is shitty because it's plotless, and then complain about the boring, non-action-intensive scenes in other movies (Gladiator, LotR) while still giving them high praise. Kill Bill excels because it's a quiet, no-shit action movie. It doesn't take itself seriously and because of that it's good. LotR and Gladiator, on the other hand, like to revel in the bullshit.

its not hypocritical, i thought the battles in gladiator and LotR were well done, involving and overall better done than all of kill bill put together. shit if i go to see an action movie i atleast want the fucking violence to look real. could you get more gory and look more fake than kill bill. the violence wasnt shocking or amazing. if they would have put more money into more realistic violence and not into all the alcohol someone would have to drink to star in it, shit the movie would of cost around 1million and thats being generous.

the best goddamn movie violence was done in the 80s and 90s. i love how no one in movies anymore get sweaty or dirty yet they hit the ground 6 times in mud. all the blood is drawn on.

oh and i could care less what other people say, movies that dont take themselves seriously are garbage before they even get made.

since i wouldnt want to raise the maturity level i leave you with this:
please blow me subhuman. hang yourself in the closet in which you were born and still reside.



PS: thanks alot OTB

[Spazmo]

I KNOW EVERYTHING BECAUSE I WATCH LOTS OF MOVIES

I'M EVEN MORE OF A PRETENTIOUS ARTSY ASSHOLE THAN YOU ARE

I thought Master and Commander was pretty fucking neat.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

I KNOW EVERYTHING BECAUSE I WATCH LOTS OF MOVIES

I'M EVEN MORE OF A PRETENTIOUS ARTSY ASSHOLE THAN YOU ARE

I thought Master and Commander was pretty fucking neat.

gladiators dont belong on boats you screwy french bastard.

[POOPERSCOOPER]

the blood looks fake and you had to fucking ask if that was intentional? Your a fucking bitch and should die cocksucker. Kill Bill was cool because had lots of style to it like all of his movies, and the action was well done but you being a fan of LotR and Gladiator battles wouldnt know that. The action with 100+ people was one of the best i've seen, and you dickhead dont like it because its not realistic. Since when was the fucking LotR battles realistic? You have flying super ninjas like Legolas who can ride shields down stairs and jump on moving elephants by inserted arrows and stand on the ass of a moving elephant makes it look really realistic. Oh but I forget Elfs are agile, so it must be realistic. LotR 1 was ok, the other 2 sucked but since they had bigger battles they must be better right?

OMG GLADIATOR HAS SWORDS AND STUFF, OSCAR!

[atoga]

I thought Master and Commander was pretty fucking neat.

o/ Agreed. Best flick I saw all year.

movies that dont take themselves seriously are garbage before they even get made.

Is that a fact, huh? Then how do you explain cult stuff, or basically any comedy at all? Movies that take themselves seriously often become way too pretentious and end up droning on and on; and they often lose view of the original idea. Perfect example: The Matrix series. I thought the original was pretty cool (neat idea, very nice fights, kinda neat punk style) but when the sequels came around the Wachowski brothers decided that The Matrix was gospel. Thus, it was ruined, and quite badly. There are a lot of exceptions to the rule, but what you're saying is far from absolute.

As for the stuff about the Kill Bill violence: it's hardly designed for film students with plastic glasses to fawn over. It's made with people who have watched a lot of Kung Fu and gory B-movies in mind. Like I said, no-bullshit. Kill Bill may be full of references, but they're all meant to be taken at face value. All it is is over-the-top goodness, and if you don't like that kind of thing you probably suck (heaven forbid you don't like Texas Chainsaw Massacre?) but don't complain about it as if you're missing something or as if Kill Bill has ulterior motives.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

Is that a fact, huh? Then how do you explain cult stuff, or basically any comedy at all? Movies that take themselves seriously often become way too pretentious and end up droning on and on; and they often lose view of the original idea. Perfect example: The Matrix series. I thought the original was pretty cool (neat idea, very nice fights, kinda neat punk style) but when the sequels came around the Wachowski brothers decided that The Matrix was gospel. Thus, it was ruined, and quite badly. There are a lot of exceptions to the rule, but what you're saying is far from absolute.

ah so thats why i hate most comedies eh?

anyways your matrix statements are true. the first one was the only remotely good one.

[Franz Schubert]

Gladiator ruled. The action was excellent, and I thought the supporting cast did an incredible job, and all the emotional parts were well done, to my surprise. It didn't seem cheesy or forced, but actually added to the movie. The ending was great too.

Anyway, I thought it was good enough to pick up the DVD.

[Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD]

atoga wrote:

You say Kill Bill is shitty because it's plotless, and then complain about the boring, non-action-intensive scenes in other movies (Gladiator, LotR) while still giving them high praise.


Maybe he should be a game reviewer?

Yeah, maybe, but he'd need to be a little more foul-mouthed and homophobic.

[atoga]

Hilarious picture; I've only seen it like twelve times already. Oh well, only serves to drive home the point, you pathetic little sexually repressed cunt.