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jetbaby wrote: Travesty? Not caring for? Do you realize that the African slave population in the United States is the only slave population in the recorded history of mankind that has a slave population that shows positive growth on its own (i.e. without constant influx of new slaves)? When was the last time you saw a slave race become the societary equals, if not betters due to reverse racism and "repaying" of "debts."
Sorry, I made the mistake of thinking this was an issue of the politics involved with why a war occered and who was in the clear, not the social history of the slaves. And before anyone anyone points out that I brought up the social position of the people at the time or near time of the issue, consider just that; it was AT the time of the issue, not how their future was to unfold and what they would be today.

As for forgetting history and not analizing it, not remembering history for those that survived it, looking back to a certain time seems reasonable, but when there's not a damn person alive that lived the period and can say yae or nae to the presumptions you're making off the paperwork you've shuffled through, how much of a truth are you expecting to exact from the escipade? What do you expect to draw from this knowledge, even if you were to come to some grand realization of the truth of the matter? Will dead men come to life because YOU know why the war happened, or will someone finally be relieves to really know why they were fighting from some 20 year old pencil-pusher on his way to a bad case of hemeroids? No, no one's coming to life, no one's left alive to be relieved by this debait unless they're living in the past. However, I'm derailing this thread with this, so I'll hop off the tracks.
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What do you expect to draw from this knowledge, even if you were to come to some grand realization of the truth of the matter?
That's probably the most one could ask for, but what's the problem there? Is there something wrong with finding answers for oneself?
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Nope, I'm just waiting to find what someone is hoping to gleam from this one. And now you've told me. Thanks. :joy:
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Anthony wrote:At least the Egyptians cared for their slaves.
LMAO, good one dude.
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Anthony wrote:At least the Egyptians cared for their slaves.
Guess Moses got pissed over nothing. Atleast he made the NRA, right?
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I would argue with you, but it would contradict my not dwelling on the past
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Let us not forget that age old adage:

"History is written by the victors"

I have always felt that there should be an ademdum to that old chestnut...something along the lines of:

"They loosers are welcome to bitterly recount and edit their version, ad nauseum."

I really hate to dust off the cliche tomes, nevertheless here is another bit that seems pertinent (En memoriam of Mr. Collins, my junior and senior year history teacher) "Unlike the so called exact sciences, History knows not the value of an absolute. There are no absolute truths in history, only different interpretations of the same facts.


BTW did anyone else notice what other wonderful titles Amazon.com assumes you'd may be interested in if you liked "The South Was Right"? Here is a sampling:

Southern by the Grace of God

Myths of American Slavery


Uh, yeah; The South will rise again!
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Anthony wrote:I would argue with you, but it would contradict my not dwelling on the past
What past, you joined yesterday, as far as I know, you have no past.
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Franz_Schubert wrote:
trythebill wrote:how could the south seceed from something that is supposed to be voluntary? formed by an act of choice?
Look, I didn't write the fucking constitution, I'm just telling you what it says.
Where, exactly does it say that in the Constitution? :confused2:
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Actually, I joined three hours ago, but to assume I have no past would defy reason, because that would date me to before conception.. furthermore, it is not my past, les't I was simultaniously more than a century old, yet not concieved as to accomidate my not having a past. It is the past of a nation.
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Anthony wrote:Actually, I joined three hours ago.
Which for alot of us is yesterday.
but to assume I have no past would defy reason, because that would date me to before conception.. furthermore, it is not my past, les't I was simultaniously more than a century old, yet not concieved as to accomidate my not having a past. It is the past of a nation

Or I could have just ment "You have no past that I know of." Also not to nitpick, but if you're TRYING to look smart, use a god damned spell checker.
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I'm not trying to appear smart; I've got horrible spelling and I'm 18, I'm still a green morron. But hey, it works for me so far.
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Anthony wrote: I'm still a green morron.
Its what they call "Irony."
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Could also be redundancy, as both imply lack of knowledge and skill.. but now, I'm off to bed. Adios, probably won't see you tomarrow.
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As if age were an excuse for being an idiot who cant spell? I'm younger than you are and I know how to spell conceived, simultaneously and accommodate.
probably won't see you <b>tomarrow</b>.
That's good to hear, and its spelled tomorrow.
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Doyle wrote:Where, exactly does it say that in the Constitution? :confused2:
I don't know where exactly, but since Lincoln declared secession to be illegal, it stands to reason that there would be a corrosponding ammendment somewhere, does it not? Unless I'm completely wrong about secession being federally outlawed :confused2:
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As far as I know, lots of presidents have acted outside the power granted to them by the Constitution.
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Executive Orders anyone?
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I lied, had to finish my anatomy and physiology homework.. deoxyhemoglobin, diaphysis, Zygomaticus muscle; congradulations, we can spell big words together. Age was a statement pretaining to who I am, how old I am, not in the form of an excuse for being a morron, but as an aspect of who I am in conjunction with BEING a morron. Not being here tomarrow would be because I am undoubtably going to be banned in some form or another. g'night
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Anthony wrote:I lied, had to finish my anatomy and physiology homework.. deoxyhemoglobin, diaphysis, Zygomaticus muscle; congradulations, we can spell big words together. Age was a statement pretaining to who I am, how old I am, not in the form of an excuse for being a morron, but as an aspect of who I am in conjunction with BEING a morron. Not being here tomarrow would be because I am undoubtably going to be banned in some form or another. g'night
Best..... post..... ever......

And don't worry Anthony, we won't ban you... you're much to fun for that!
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