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Anthony wrote:morron
Atleast he's consistant?
Not being here tomarrow would be because I am undoubtably going to be banned in some form or another. g'night
Every village needs its idiot. As such, I doubt you'll be banned. Unless you have a "Fuck you Killzig!" post lying around somewhere that I'm unaware of.
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Well he seems too mild-mannered to become the next Syko/Soldier/etc.
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He's the next Thuron.


Agreed?
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Wow, low blow.
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He wont larst loung eh vill porbarbli qwit tamarrow, cuase iou wlil harge im donw to taers wid argunmats to stupaed to be couterargued.

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Know what's sad? My spelling is so naturally horrible that I can interperate what you typed. Fear not; if the arguement is too stupid to have a counter and the bar is too low you think, you have no idea how low my bar can go!
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Anthony, don't derail the topic. If you have nothing to add then don't post.
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Actually, JJ, allow me to rephrase that: Anthony, don't post.
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Ah, the Civil War...there's so much bullshit flung from BOTH sides that it's hard to tell right from wrong on a lot of issues. Like it's been previously said, abolition of slavery was a product, not a cause of the war--a political move, basically. And part of the reason the South felt it could seceed was because at the time the federal government waqs nowhere near as involved with day-to-day lives as it is now.

I'm surprised that some of you have had such pro-North history lessons, as mine were more objective...course, my 4th grade Social Studies teacher did her damndest to make it seem like the North were a bunch of slovenly hicks, then we got into an argument when I refused to believe that Robert E. Lee was a Civil War hero.
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The North and South were pretty well intertwined at that point, why else did many brothers fight against their brothers? The things I remember the most was seeing films about John Brown in elementary school. Of course as like now, the northern press played a major part in drumming support to go to war. The press has never been objective and if you've ever read the prose of early journalists it is very obvious what they want. The anti-slavery sentiment was a major reason for the average citizen to support the war. The underground railroad was big in Wisconsin before the war. I have read pre-war accounts of escaped slaves in Milwaukee whose masters tried to bring back. One slave, Joshua Glover was rescued from the county jail by a mob who then proceeded to run the master out of town.

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Anthony wrote:Does this seem not a little out dated a topic to anyone else? Both north, and south comitted injustices. The north stole from the south, or "liberated", whichever you wish to say, and the south held slaves in a fassion that was a travisty. At least the Egyptians cared for their slaves. See how I did that? Working irrelivent facts into an outdated argument.. it's like arguing that fallout was the best game ever... it was the best game of it's TIME, no doubts here.. but we have to move on, just as we must move on from this issue, no? But, I'll let you keep arguing.. you shouldn't have taken the time to read this.
That's not on topic. That is about Egyptians and how you don't give a crap about this topic. Then you continue on about Fallout and again with the discussion is useless because no one cares bit.
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Anthony wrote:Does this seem not a little out dated a topic to anyone else? Both north, and south comitted injustices. The north stole from the south, or "liberated", whichever you wish to say, and the south held slaves in a fassion that was a travisty.
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Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:
i love how people instantly think SLAVERY = TEH EVIL SATAN.

I mean... holy hells batman! It's not like the whole modern world was built on it or anything.
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Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:i love how people instantly think SLAVERY = TEH EVIL SATAN.
The only thing I have against slavery is that it's been demonstrated that due the low morale inherent in slavery, it's more cost-efficient to pay your workers. Especially when the work that needs to be done is more complex than basic menial labour.

I read that stuff in some economic book, it was pretty interesting. Too bad I didn't find it out before I made my nick, eh. D:
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Yup. That's why they have this modern thing called "inner enterpriser", too. In these days you've got to squeeze the last drop of efficiency from your employees and slavery is far from the top-notch.
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Oh, slavery in certain forms is assuredly not evil; you're right, it did get civilization quite a long ways down the road. However, in Greek and Roman times, there was the potential to get one's self out of slavery, in some events of it, the slaves could open their own shops and make money. In time, they might pay their ways out that way. I am not confident enough of my versing in history to make any forgone conclusions on other means, but I do know that slaves could become educated. That's a far cry better than having toes cut off for being a literate slave in the colonies.

Haha, Kashluk reminded me of a suitable quote... "Slavery has not been abolished, it's hours just changed to 9 to 5."
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Anthony wrote:Oh, slavery in certain forms is assuredly not evil; you're right, it did get civilization quite a long ways down the road. However, in Greek and Roman times, there was the potential to get one's self out of slavery, in some events of it, the slaves could open their own shops and make money. In time, they might pay their ways out that way. I am not confident enough of my versing in history to make any forgone conclusions on other means, but I do know that slaves could become educated. That's a far cry better than having toes cut off for being a literate slave in the colonies.

Haha, Kashluk reminded me of a suitable quote... "Slavery has not been abolished, it's hours just changed to 9 to 5."
I thought all of this was a dead topic beyond discussion. You've lowered yourself to our level, eh?
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