Notes on designing levels

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Wed May 29, 2002 9:58 pm

Playing some of the top designers maps lately, some thoughts starting forming in my mind. What's your thoughts on "unconventional" containers? E.g. trees-doormats-flowerpots(I'm thinking of including these in my campaign), tables, or even dead bodies(as OTB recently suggested)? Can the player easily spot these? Would we just make it harder for him to find essential or not items of the campaign/map?

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Wed May 29, 2002 10:23 pm

There are scenery sprites for toilets. They work as containers provided you set them to "Always Open"...

You want this little bauble? *hehe* I hope you brought some soap... :twisted:

OTB

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Wed May 29, 2002 10:35 pm

I think as long as you had an NPC who would occasionally give clues:

"Back in '36 I hid the loot in a toilet tank in the an old factory building. Can't remember where exactly which is I's poor to this day..."

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Wed May 29, 2002 11:38 pm

OnTheBounce wrote:There are scenery sprites for toilets. They work as containers provided you set them to "Always Open"...

You can? I didn't know that. Its good for something I just thought of. Good 'un OTB! Thanks!

Max-Violence · Post by **Max-Violence** » Thu May 30, 2002 1:41 am

The idea of floor mat containers and such is a pretty good on, FS. Just make sure you let the player know such containers exist.

Or, you could take the floor mat one step further: Use a trigger to "slide" the mat when an actor "uses" the mat.

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Thu May 30, 2002 2:03 am

I'm revealling stuff of what I'm thinking of doing, but what the heck! I'm intending to use the Door/floor mat to store a key infront of a door for instance(when saying doormat, as in a newly created tile for it). Apart from being a bit obvious, I think it could be seen as slightly funny.

Max-Violence · Post by **Max-Violence** » Thu May 30, 2002 3:15 am

Well, there are "rug" tiles that look like dormats. Try Village -> Objects -> FloorRugs and Raiders -> Objects -> Furniture

Pataso · Post by **Pataso** » Thu May 30, 2002 9:13 am

ever thought about hiding grammy's money and shotgun under a matress set up as an container ent?

hope u don't forget to have a nuka cola machine

Max-Violence · Post by **Max-Violence** » Thu May 30, 2002 9:31 am

Pataso wrote:ever thought about hiding grammy's money and shotgun under a matress set up as an container ent?

Hey, that's an idea!

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Thu May 30, 2002 8:55 pm

Max-Violence wrote:Well, there are "rug" tiles that look like dormats. Try Village -> Objects -> FloorRugs and Raiders -> Objects -> Furniture

Well, there is the problem that none of them has "Welcome" writen on it!

Besides I use them in other occasions, so I don't want to get extremely repeatetive...

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Thu May 30, 2002 10:01 pm

Flamescreen wrote:Besides I use [maps and rugs] in other occasions, so I don't want to get extremely repeatetive...

Start looking a bit more closely at the tiles used in the core missions, as well as those on FO RPG maps. The designers themselves are extremely repetitive. There's really no way to avoid it.

OTB

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Thu May 30, 2002 11:55 pm

Well, what's the tile editor's use for then?

*I need 10, no 20, or better yet 30 new doormat tiles. Yep that should be enough*