Racial Profiling

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:27 am

Maximus wrote: You stupid Fuck! Communism is horse shit. You work your whole fucking life away, while having things taken away from you.

Communism should only seem like a good idea if you are extremely poverty stricken. In this sense, Communism would slightly better your quality of life. Sure, the rich get boned, and fuck them who cares, but so do the middle-class.

Edit: Holy Shit! Why would a post ever need to be that big.

I'm sorry you don't bother to research what you insult. Try it sometime. Communism is a utopian society (never achieved, so how do you know when and where it would work?) in which people only take what they need and give everything they have to the society as a whole. Communism is not TEH BEEG EVAL that the western world's history books and society make it into. Read a book. Read an article. Try The Communism Manifesto. Then you can bitch and whine to your hearts content. At least you will have a chunk of that ugly little chunk of meat you call a brain that has some knowledge about what you are talking about.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:47 am

Communism is a beautiful idea; all working together for the good of the whole, everyone on a level playingfield and living life, loving, and keeping the community alive. The trouble is the phase where you put humans in. With a society like that, things are bound to fall appart... everything gets regular, then you get bored.. then you do new things, see new things.. you want more, so it draws from your work... and so on.

Sol Invictus · Post by **Sol Invictus** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:39 am

Ozrat wrote: Too bad you would need to have a warrant for every single immigrant for that first in order to make your idea work.

Honestly, can you imagine the loads of paperwork, red tape, etc. that would build up just by trying to keep tabs on every "possible suspect" from profiling that comes along? Find us the money and labor force to do that and I might consider your theories to have a slight chance of being POSSIBLE in reality.

JJ86, you're right on the money with all this. Must be a common attribute that us Wisconsinite semi-criminals have, eh?

You only need a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Securities Act) warrant issued by a secret Federal judge to conduct searches and survaillance on immigrants. It cuts through a lot of red tape and you don't have to file it through local jurisdiction. Yes, it's already being done but not to the full extent -- because, as you said, it'd take too much manpower.

Sol Invictus · Post by **Sol Invictus** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:57 am

Maximus wrote: You stupid Fuck! Communism is horse shit. You work your whole fucking life away, while having things taken away from you.

Communism should only seem like a good idea if you are extremely poverty stricken. In this sense, Communism would slightly better your quality of life. Sure, the rich get boned, and fuck them who cares, but so do the middle-class.

Edit: Holy Shit! Why would a post ever need to be that big.

You don't get communism, do you?

If everybody works hard and is successful then everybody becomes rich. There are no 'middle class' (bourgeois) or nobles (fucking bluebloods) in a communist society. There is only the proletariat and everybody is a proletariat, unless you decide to betray your comrades for more of TEH MONIES.

Realistically, Communism would never work in a country where there are few, but enough poor people to reduce the standard of living of the middle class majority with too few rich people to 'spread the wealth' to even the scales. Everyone would become poorer than they are and that would be depressing, which is what happened to some Soviet countries in the 60s and 70s. On the other hand, if properly done, Communism could very well work in the United States if all of the money and property belonging to the ultra-rich (e.g. the top 10%) were dispersed amongst everybody, since they have more money than the rest of the 90% combined. Meaning, the majority of Americans would have much to gain and would in fact become a much wealthier middle class.

Fuck rich people.

Sol Invictus · Post by **Sol Invictus** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:08 am

Anthony wrote:Communism is a beautiful idea; all working together for the good of the whole, everyone on a level playingfield and living life, loving, and keeping the community alive. The trouble is the phase where you put humans in. With a society like that, things are bound to fall appart... everything gets regular, then you get bored.. then you do new things, see new things.. you want more, so it draws from your work... and so on.

Now now, don't go calling Communism boring. It all depends on the government's (people's) mandate of technological or social progression. If the people decide that their nation needs to become technologically advanced, labor can be diverted into those necessary professions and cut from less important industries. The best part about it is that nobody would be jobless. Making Communism or Socialism work takes more effort than a regular Capitalist state so special training schools and facilities have to be set up in a communist state to provide training for new jobs for everyone, so that when a farmer finds himself out of work due to the 'reallocaton of labor', he can always pursue a career in engineering or what ever training courses he has already completed. The people living in this society would be the most well-rounded, well-educated people on earth if it were done right.

Of course, you might decide to bring up Mao Zedong pulling scientists out of their offices and putting them into the rice paddies and taking farmers to work in a lab, but what he did was a plain old case of teh stuped. He was a dictator, first of all as the majority of the people were farmers and not educated to make good decisions. I do happen to think that were a communist state hope to prosper, the most intelligent people should be elected to guide the public.

I do think that people who are good at their jobs should be allowed to stick to it and have a duty to their fellow comrades as specialists good in what they do. Those who are proven to be inept in technical skills would be relegated to manual labor of their choosing. I don't really fancy the idea of some guy forcing me to take a job based on my 'abilities' as he perceives. Personal choice should damn well exist no matter what society we live in.