Water on mars

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:09 pm

Yeah, I think by understanding what other planets goes throught, it might help us deal with ours?

I agree tho that the money spent on space exploration could be used for better things. Same with military budgets?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:12 pm

Military budget isn't as well funded as it could be (Although for us it changed allitle with 9/11, but we've still go slight underfunding in some areas), I'm also thinking the space exploration budget isn't that well funded because NASA always complains about not having enough money.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:23 pm

Yea, but what few money is in the NASA's budget is enough to fund a whole small country, same with military budget.

Anyway, Canada's military is kind of useless, they should just scrap it completely instead of funding them a little each year so they keep on sucking, and fund health system or education system instead.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:46 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Yea, but what few money is in the NASA's budget is enough to fund a whole small country, same with military budget.

Anyway, Canada's military is kind of useless, they should just scrap it completely instead of funding them a little each year so they keep on sucking, and fund health system or education system instead.

a country without a military is a rape waiting to happen. its just asking to get fisted.
our military does tons of stuff so dont dilute yourself because we dont goto war in the middle east all the time.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:15 pm

I'm guessing you never supported a Taoist way to govern, egh?

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:22 pm

Wolfman Walt wrote:I'm guessing you never supported a Taoist way to govern, egh?

actually i think im the exact opposite.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:55 pm

I see space exploration as a more useful thing than upkeeping armies. In today's world, where the biggest threat comes in form of surprising business airjets hitting twin-towers, you can't stop bad things from happening with tons of tanks and guys with rifles.

Disagree as much as you want, but I see the military in my country pretty much useless. Sure they've been credited all around the world and shit, but we're such a small country we would be overrun *anyhow* if some major power decided to take us over this very moment. Sure, we "won" the wars in '39-'45, but for the next 40 years we kept bowing to the USSR and our leaders were asking Moscow's permission to even take a shit.

What happened in the 40's isn't likely to happen ever again. There won't be another world war of similar scale/style, if there will, we'll all just go boom with our nuclear pussies, atomic kittens, whatever. The world has changed and so has the need for military.

Most of the money spent on guns and ammo our boys are using for their war games on the target range could be used for the safety and health of normal citizens. Bleh, of course military has it's peace time uses as well, like working as a peace-keeping unit and shit, but don't we all agree `that UN sucks? Spending money on new techniques how to kill people more efficiently isn't as productive in my opinion than trying to make people's lives better.

Anyhow, I'm tracking way off-topic here... Meant to say that I support space exploration and that now, when others than just the US & ol'-USSR are able to launch their own shuttles we have bigger chances to actually get something useful out of all this.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:00 pm

I'm totally with Kashluk on this one.

Mandolorian, I don't see what the canadian army's doing for us? We sent 9 soldiers in Haiti, YAY! We sent a couple soldiers in Middle-East, YAY. The world doesn't need our soldiers.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:10 pm

I always thought that Canada was really undercredited for their contributions in World War II. I mean when most people think of the allies in WWII they automatically think "American, Britian, and Russia" when Canada helped as well.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:27 pm

Wolfman Walt wrote:I always thought that Canada was really undercredited for their contributions in World War II. I mean when most people think of the allies in WWII they automatically think "American, Britian, and Russia" when Canada helped as well.

I'm talking about the current contribution of Canada to the world, it's not like we're doing anything that couldn't be done without us. We're just there so we can say so in diplomatic meetings later on, to boost our reputation.

When I say "our" I mean Canada's governement, which I don't associate with at all.

Phias · Post by **Phias** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:23 pm

Is this event under-appreciated? Where there is water, there is(or was) life of some form. This could lead to something big[/b], people. But I guess I'm being too optimistic.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:25 pm

Wolfman Walt wrote:I always thought that Canada was really undercredited for their contributions in World War II. I mean when most people think of the allies in WWII they automatically think "American, Britian, and Russia" when Canada helped as well.

canada was one of the major players in keeping britain from being over run by the luffewaffe. but no one recognizes that or the fact that we were on the beaches of normandy too.

we are peace keepers sauron. our personnel gear is top notch but our armor and air divisions suck ass. as i said before, a country without an army is just waiting to get cluster fucked at the first sign of war.

are you oblivious to the contributions we are making in afganistan?
our soldiers are our patroling the borders of the middle east in ships and our soldiers are peacekeeping in afganistan but no one knows it?
shit a bunch of canadian soldiers died in afganistan not too long ago.
the US goes in and fucks shit up then leaves the rest to fix it. thats the way it goes.

maybe in quebec they dont lose soldiers because they dont participate in the canadian military because they dont feel they need to defend something they dont want to be part of anyways?

EDIT: in ww2 the americans didnt even fucking come into it until 41' the war had being going on for like 3 years before that. and people fucking wonder why france got taken and britain was getting owned.

in ww1 canada never retreated or lost a battle they participated in.

EDIT2:

s4ur0n27 wrote:I'm totally with Kashluk on this one.

Mandolorian, I don't see what the canadian army's doing for us? We sent 9 soldiers in Haiti, YAY! We sent a couple soldiers in Middle-East, YAY. The world doesn't need our soldiers.

what the fuck do you want the army to do? go fuck around in someone elses country to attempt to look like heroes?
the only reason the americans are going into haiti is because they put the leader into power. the people should kick his ass out and put who they want in. the US shouldnt fucking decide.

s4ur0n27 wrote:When I say "our" I mean Canada's governement, which I don't associate with at all.

leave the fucking country then.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:53 pm

we are peace keepers sauron. our personnel gear is top notch but our armor and air divisions suck ass

That qualifies for Finland as well, see my previous post.
The percentage of military's operations under UN's peace keeping action is quite frankly so small, that the rest of the budget *has* to go somewhere. And this resource could be used for something, well, more resourceful.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:13 pm

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:we are peace keepers sauron. our personnel gear is top notch but our armor and air divisions suck ass. as i said before, a country without an army is just waiting to get cluster fucked at the first sign of war.

Like Kashluk said, a country with an army like ours is fucked anyway if a major power decides to attack us?

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:what the fuck do you want the army to do? go fuck around in someone elses country to attempt to look like heroes?

That's exactly my point, we should scrap the army completely. Our contribution isn't as big as you think. And when you said a "bunch of soldiers died", you must have meant like 10 soldiers?

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:56 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:
Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:we are peace keepers sauron. our personnel gear is top notch but our armor and air divisions suck ass. as i said before, a country without an army is just waiting to get cluster fucked at the first sign of war.
Like Kashluk said, a country with an army like ours is fucked anyway if a major power decides to attack us?

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD wrote:what the fuck do you want the army to do? go fuck around in someone elses country to attempt to look like heroes?
That's exactly my point, we should scrap the army completely. Our contribution isn't as big as you think. And when you said a "bunch of soldiers died", you must have meant like 10 soldiers?

10 soldiers is alot for canada to lose. i wonder how much money the US would have to throw into military spending to do the jobs canada does keeping peace in other countries?

i think there would be a canada resistance cell if anyone tried to take us over and succeded.

last goddamn thing i want is the state of Ontario part of the US.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:32 pm

Eww. If 10 soldiers is a lot to lose for Canada, then it means our army is fuckin small, and not enough to defend the country against an attack by the US?

What are you trying to say?

MurPHy · Post by **MurPHy** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:10 pm

That the U.S. Army PWNZ Canada.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:46 pm

MurPHy wrote:That the U.S. Army PWNZ Canada.

No, that's what I was saying. He's trying to justify Canada's military suckiness.

Or something. :confused2:

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:29 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:
MurPHy wrote:That the U.S. Army PWNZ Canada.
No, that's what I was saying. He's trying to justify Canada's military suckiness.

Or something. :confused2:

i wasnt trying to justify anything other than the fact that canadas military is important for multiple purposes if not just for creating jobs.

since half our population are immigrant why the hell should they enlist?
if we had the pop of the US we could have a kick ass army too but i doubt we would abuse it like the US. but whos to say what the hell canada would be like with a population of 250 million.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:38 pm

What I'm trying to say here is that all these missions we're doing doesn't serve us, here at home in Canada, at all. It's just a lot of money for our small population, and a way of being correct and looking "good" for other nations, especially the USA. Altho that money is better spent then Martin's little financing scandal.

I'm just saying there would be better uses for our taxes than to maintain an army,