Dawn of the Dead

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:52 am

Haha. Its a shame his phone was on silent or whatever, I had a bit of a script of things I was going to bring up after he answered the phone. Hey, I have an idea: Why not post his cell on DAC, so that everyone can have fun calling him like I plan to?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:20 am

You're evil......very evil......I like this.......

KruddMan · Post by **KruddMan** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:58 am

went to see this opening night I loved it.

loved the original too but i liked this a lot better.

credit sequences looked like a website i made
http://www.giborama.com/kruddman/rvsvsz
watch the logo on the left

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:06 am

Sexy website. Speaking of credits I have a big problem with the playing of that stupid"down with the sickness" song near the end.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:07 am

Yeah that was rather annoying. Like a 13 on a scale of 1 to 14.

swordinstone · Post by **swordinstone** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:24 am

CloudNineGT wrote:Sexy website. Speaking of credits I have a big problem with the playing of that stupid"down with the sickness" song near the end.

that would be the agreed pimping of that song with whatever record company, for the money they gave them to make the movie... cant just give out money without taking advantage of prime advertisment time! EVEN IF it soils the project artistically.... oh well, maybe one day somone will set a better example.

Lunchmeat · Post by **Lunchmeat** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:39 am

Did anyone notice that the lounge style song during the montage of them filling their time in the mall (sex, golf, etc) was a cover of "Down With the Sickness"? Some comedian put out a couple albums with similar covers under the name of Richard Cheese. (Dick, get it? ha.)

Also, doesn't the Johnny Cash and Jim Carroll Band they play make up for the Disturbed just a little bit?

swordinstone · Post by **swordinstone** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:41 am

Johnny Cash at the beginning was perfect, especially after that intense segment of erupting chaos.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:47 am

I absolutely LOVED the Johnny Cash.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:20 pm

Hmm apperantly theres going to be a new Johnny Cash movie, its currently going to be made. Stars some Pheonix guy as the man in black and Reese Witherspoon (Boo?) as June Carter Cash. Its titled "I Walk the Line". Heres for hoping its any good.

KruddMan · Post by **KruddMan** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:04 pm

the johnny cash int he opening credits was perfect
i pulled out my johnny cash cd and listened to the song over and over afterwards

avenger69ie · Post by **avenger69ie** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:46 pm

SPOILERS****

Best charactor in the film was the Guy in the guns and ammo shop, Alan. the guy that took out burt reynolds, jay leno and rosie o'donnell.
i thought the communication with the placards with the mall guys was class, plus when he gets it, the mall guys see him writing on the placard, turns out he just smears it with blood and holds it up. Classic!

Also, the end credits were fairly good as you can choose what ending you want, the sail off into teh sunset or the island with the zombies.

slapshot · Post by **slapshot** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:28 pm

The remake was essentially a completely different movie, little of the original was retained except that the group found its way to a mall. As a remake it sucked but in its own right it is a good flesh eating zombie yarn. I do believe that remakes should retain the characters and general plot of the original more closely than the new DOTD did.

As an example look at what they did with Night of the Living Dead, It was essentially the same as the original except that they lost the irritating catatonic blond (good riddance) and replaced her with a woman that eventually collects herself and fights to survive. There were some sweet plot changes in the remake of Night of The Living Dead. I mean who didn't like that prick Cooper taking a bullet in the head from the heroin when she returned to the house and her remark, "thats another one for the fire," classic.

I also missed the numerous and increasingly absurd news broadcasts of the original DOTD. Additionally I really hated the fact that the spastic little cunt that just had to rescue the dog managed to survive at the expence of the lives of others. It would have been nice to see her sweet little ass end up on the menue instead of sailing off to the island.

slapshot

avenger69ie · Post by **avenger69ie** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:54 pm

she got wasted on the island anyway, was it her with the camera?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:03 pm

Nah, it was the security guard guy with the camera. And yea, I agree, I wished she got undead skull raped instead of, oh.... say someone useful like Andy.

slapshot · Post by **slapshot** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:01 am

I find it absolutely foul that Andy got wasted, as Wolfman said he was useful. But I guess in the minds of the screen writers and producers a second ammendment guy and a gun dealer to boot deserves to die. Its much better you see to have a spastic dependant oxygen theif like that little moron bitch survive through no effort of her own and get others killed along the way taking care of her. She was however fuckable so In that situation it was her only saving grace and the only reason not to feed her to the gouls.

If they had been able to get Andy and a rack of his scoped hunting rifles and as much ammo as they could haul without getting hernias they could have thinned out the pack quite nicely in a single eight hour shooting day and then made a break for it.

Lets see, 5 shooters firing 1 aimed shot a minute each from the roof top only at the zombies the are not more than 150 yards away could clean out a maximum of 300 zombies an hour or 2400 zombies in a shooting day. Even if they just got 80% hits thats still 1920 less zombies to deal with. Hell they could have scheduled in a two hour lunch and weapons maintinance break and then could have driven to the boat while drinking marguritas and partaking of some light shotgunning and chainsawing enrout.

slapshot

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:34 am

Being that they had tons of alchohol in the mall, I neglect knowledge why they didn't spend afew days chucking Molotovs off into the crowds of undead. Its not a headshot, true, but the propane gas tanks had the same effect in getting rid of some of them. I mean they'de be pretty harmless and dead at that point......well more-so dead. I mean in theory you could get rid of all them that way and not even need to use the few bullets they had.

Hell, you could even improvise some explosives. Napalm isn't exactly that hard to make. And would work well.

Another idea for Andy.......they have toy stores in the mall, why not just use one of those toy planes/helicopters with some food tied to it? Or some model rockets? Just blast/fly it onto his roof. In the case of the airplane, he could even fly some ammo back. I mean even if not, bottle rockets would work, wouldn't they? Just tie like a can of soup or a sandwich per bottle rocket.

slapshot · Post by **slapshot** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:39 am

Wolfman Walt wrote:Being that they had tons of alchohol in the mall, I neglect knowledge why they didn't spend afew days chucking Molotovs off into the crowds of undead.

Good call Wolfman

Lets see take a 5 gallon steel can of gasoline or 151 rum/acetone/ paint thinner/ white camp stove gas or whatever and add enough styrofoam cups (that will disolve in white gas or paint thinner) into the mix to make it thick and you have a reasonably good incendary mixture. yes a zomby with all the meat burned off oh his skeletal muscles isnt a threat. Whats that about 20 coctails per 5 gallon can, hundreds could be made. Ah relaxing days of fire bombing the gouls could be fun. Heck with all the medical tubing you could find in the mall you could rig a giant sling shot to reach out and touch the flesh eaters at 50 yards or more.

Now if the shoppers are as creative as Wolfman Walt they could go to the hardware store and procure a stout supply of small O2 canisters, and a scrunch of brass fittings and valves (dont forget the left hand threaded gas fittings). Then its time to head to the variety stores camping section to get some small propane canisters for camp stoves. Remove the valve from the propane canisters and allow the propane to escape to the air (I recomend doing it on the roof). Drill a hole on the top of the canister and screw in a brass fitting and insert an estes model rocket igniter and seal it with some 5 minute epoxy and a little RTV. now taking care not to soak the igniter pour in a quart of 151proof rum or gasoline into each one.

Send Wolfman to the hobby store to get as many RC remote control devises and and cars as he can and then he will rig a RC firing circut that shoots the juice from a few 9v batteries wired in series to the igniter.

Now complete the devises by attaching the 02 canisters and a valves to the now charged and primed containment vessels and Lash the Poor mans zomby blaster devises to the cars (like tremors2).

launch instructions, after opening the 02 valve send it immediatly out into the parking lot (there is a danger of spontanious combustion in a pressurized 02 environment) and hit the switch when you manuver it near a nice little pack of gouls. The meat stripping bone shattering blast radius should be 3 or 4 meters. lets see thats about a 28 to 50 zombies a pop if you assume that each is taking up one square meter and the blast radius is 3 to 4 meters, but being conservative assume that you will get 10 K kills and 10 cripples per blast.

by launching a dozen of these RC zomby bombs rapidly ahead of the the intended path of the 'save Andy team' the way will be clear enough to drive to Andy load the truck with his ammo and guns and get back to the mall, and I mean STRIP his store for all its worth not forgetting about all the smokeless reloading powder, black powder, and pyrodex he has.

Good call on those molotovs and the hobby store Wolfman.

slapshot

PS: Be sure to have that idiot dog loving little tramp chained to a pipe and gagged throughout the operation so that she wont get Andy or any useful team member killed or distracted.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:11 am

Neccesity is the mother of all invention.

avenger69ie · Post by **avenger69ie** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:52 pm

just seen my typo there, alan = andy.

i've watched dotd again, and with what i've read here, i've come to the conclusion that the mall shops werent used at all for anything except food and secure shelter.

on this point, i dont have any idea what a standard american mall would consist of in regards to shops etc.. but wouldnt they have had a sporting goods store of some kind with more guns and more ammo?

if worst came to worst,
the Roof of the mall was littered with rocks and stones, a standard slingshot with a good rounded pebble hit to the temple will kill a normal person if guns are not an option.
Petrol bombs/molotov's grenades, homemade explosives like wolfman and slapshot said are the best idea for a crowd such as was in the film.

The speed of the zombies in the film was a bit odd, if necrosis had set in post death the zombies would have become slower as time went by.

There was only one point were i seen the zombies actually eating, and that was the security guy in the mall at the beginning, (he ended up as the twitcher in the fountain) as all things need fuel to "live" and to move
(zombies, arent alive but the basic rule still applies)
did they eat other zombies or just humans? they obviously didnt eat animals as the dog proved.

I can see a sequel to this coming out in the future, Where was that helicoptor going??? the truck came from the same direction as the chopper.

Duck and Cover

Dawn of the Dead

the remake was

Andy ruled

Good call WolfmanWalt