Far Cry. Yep, I had to post this.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:46 am

A lot. The environment just looks empty, and water seems flat and lifeless.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:46 am

With everything low it looks slightly better than Unreal in software mode.

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:52 am

Well, I don't think you'll need to go all LOW, but just to note, on low you get no grass(small detail grass), no realtime shadows, shorter draw distance and craptacular water. I think MED is reasonable, especially if you only update your video card rather than the whole machine.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:46 am

Hows the multiplayer? I'm thinking about getting it, but I think you guys are just in your OMG stage and havent reflected yet, so I wait little while.

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:59 am

Hell most of us have beaten the game....well past the OMG stage

I'm personally having CD key problems, but I believe thats my Firewall so, dunno about MP.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:11 am

Lots of posts on their forums about it. Majority of the replies say something about uninstalling the patch, uninstalling the game (in that order), and then reinstalling and going online without patch, from there you should be able to input your cd-key and it should work (try a few times one post said), and then when it is accepted back out, patch, go back and play. I dunno. I've been waiting all evening for ar eply to my issue on their techsupport forum so I've picked up a few things.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:28 am

POOPERSCOOPER wrote:Hows the multiplayer? I'm thinking about getting it, but I think you guys are just in your OMG stage and havent reflected yet, so I wait little while.

Haven't tried multiplayer because I hear it sucks. There's major lag problems the developers promised to be working on. Maybe after the next patch I'll give it a shot.

Crytek took some tips from Half Life's original launch. Great singleplayer and bare bones multi. I don't remember anybody getting HL for the online portion. Netcode sucked and it took mods to make it better. Hopefully Far Cry gets the same treatment. The Assault mode sounds like something cool to build off of. And the editor is supposed to be good. Everything is setup for the fans to take over.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:54 am

Being that making mods is not only easier, but yields better results I can imagine some pretty good Multiplayer mods coming out. I wouldn't be suprised if some people bought the game simply for the editor.

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:10 am

Yea mega...I won't ruin it for everyone else, but my god, was that necessary?! Difficult isn't even the right word.

Personally, looking back, I enjoyed the first 70 - 75% (15 of the 20 levels) the most. The last parts and the end game...meh...still beautiful, but from a design standpoint, a tad weak, but not entirely unexpected.

Still was a kick ass experience...looking forward to D3 and HL2 moreso than ever.

Cheers

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:19 am

Oh yea, and for you new players...don't bother going to challenging or realistic. I consider myself a very capable FPS'er(read: top tier

), and didn't feel this was more challenging in a fair way. For example, I would be crouched and barely moving, and from around a wall and up on scafolding, you'd hear "did you hear that?". They make stealth so ambiguous, almost to the point where I felt that if it was convenient for them for me to be seen/heard regardless, for the sake of challenge, that it would be so. I never felt that I was being 'challenged' in a way where I was still responsible for my gameplay and perceptions and aiming ability, and more that it removes that fine layer of predictable gameplay(not predictable in a story way, but in a convention way; predictable or 'expected' behaviour vs irrational behaviour or unrealistic; unpredictable). The enemy just hears better, see's farther, aims better and can take hits and keep on coming. Some dudes I could empty a clip into, even zinging the head a few times and they wouldn't go down. No matter how spectacular my aim, it was a war of attrition, thankfully I could replenish quickly depleting ammo supplies.

Don't take this wrong...just saying play it on normal...maybe auto adjust Ai checked...you'll still be MORE than challenged, but not mind bending frustration.

Oh, and Rule #24 of game development, NEVER place enemies around tops of ladders the player has to navigate(and can't fire from) and NEVER start the player right in the middle of trouble. *sigh*

Cheers

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:57 am

I'm on the cooler mission now. I also picked up a new gun, but ran out of ammo for it. omg spoilars ahead!

The rocket-launching mutants aren't that fantastical I reckon, I usually just run away from them. I like the stealth mutants though. The spec-op guys are pretty funky too, though I'm getting to a point in the game where I avoid enemies instead of taking them all on. It's not too bad, just the scale of the fights and the lack of health or armour or ammo seem to not make it worthy to kill them all.

I'm digging it, but sometimes it can be too overwhelming. It's not too bad though, just makes me think more. Any game that makes me think is pretty good.

Anyone noticed that you get a health boost after every checkpoint when you load? I'm guessing this is why quicksaving isnt there. I like the system though, I can do certain sections whenever I want.

I hate the enemies above ladders though. Espeacially those rocket-launching snipers. I don't like the rocket-launcher at all actually. It should be more of a single shot thing, like a LAW. Or at least have a really slow reloading time.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:50 am

Best way to deal with rocket snipers who are in towers is to simply throw a rock up to them. This works in realistic so it might not work in other settings, but the soldiers get so jumpy that they shoot the first thing they see move that isn't a friendly IE the rock. Since this is close proximity with a rocket......well nuff said. I don't even think it alerts anyone since it's friendly fire for the enemy. Abit odd, but if its stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:02 pm

Just spent $100 bucks on this game (I hope you're Happy EvoG.....). And wow. My computer licks balls so I have to run it all on low. No bigger, looks like chrome and after a couple of hours of playing I start getting paintball patches.

Vechiles are fun. Had an absolute blast the first time I grabbed a buggy. Just past the bunker level. I'm half tempted to ditch uni tomorrow just to keep playing this thing.

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:21 pm

So wait Stainless...is this a good thing?

You're happy right?

Well just to make sure, I never said that you didn't need a powerful ass 'puter, but that a graphics card upgrade can go a long way to getting you out of low, since this puppy is shader happy, with a good majority of the calculations being done in the GPU.

Hehe, well I'm glad you're happy(I'M HAPPY!)...I think.

Cheers

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:41 pm

I'm happy, it's just annoying that any 3d game I play has subtle messages in it for me to spend another thousand odd dollars on my computer :p

also, is it just me or does the hang glider, well, suck?

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:50 pm

I thought it sucked a bit too. Found it more fun just too jump off the edge or smash the glider into the side of a cliff.

I'd like to drive the helicopter. Mabye in a mod eh gringo?

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:08 pm

Well I think we had this conversation before. You want the industry just stop right where you're at computational power-wise and just make games for older machines? How about the point of view I have, where "why did it take so long for games to catch up to my machines?"

Games push the technology which improves technology which gives developers even more room to push the technology in an endless cycle...which is why today we have gorgeous looking worlds like D3, HL2, Farcry and Stalker. *shrugs*

Glider = sucks...

Mulitplayer officially rocks(as official as you consider me

). Assault is the way to go...very satisfying and I love how you can destroy lots of stuff as the attackers...and equally your engineers can rebuild BlowD up stuff on defense...great tug of war when you get on a server with people that know the fundamentals. Lag reminds me of Delta Force...and it comes and goes. For the most part on my cable I was averaging 100 - 140, which is awesome...but unlike UT, here the lag 'will' appear from time to time making firefights a tad difficult, but thats infrequent.

Cheers

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:21 pm

There's a trick to using the glider. When you jump into the thing you HAVE to stay above water. The moment you're above land it'll nose dive. Yeah it's kinda lame, but you can skip long frustrating areas after getting the hang of it.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:36 pm

EvoG wrote:Well I think we had this conversation before. You want the industry just stop right where you're at computational power-wise and just make games for older machines? How about the point of view I have, where "why did it take so long for games to catch up to my machines?" Games push the technology which improves technology which gives developers even more room to push the technology in an endless cycle...which is why today we have gorgeous looking worlds like D3, HL2, Farcry and Stalker. *shrugs*

Yes, well everyone seems keen on releasing nothing but crap for low end machines these days, and anything that is worth getting comes in groups, and incidently, at the same time as I need to spend a couple of hundred on text books. It's just a royal pain in the arse to keep up on it.

EvoG · Post by **EvoG** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:43 pm

Well I am being fun about this, so take this the right way (NOT BEING MEAN STAINLESS

), BUT, why should the industry cater to you and your need for textbooks vs. me and my need for high tech games?

Or, are you just saying its a pain for you, but understand why they make high end games? Or are you actually frustrated by developers because they will tend to make high end games out of reach of slower machines?

As for the timing of good games and text books, well, I dunno, I have heard that they have meetings about when to release games...as I understand it, they know you're flush with text book money, so why not see if they can get you to spend some on games! Hehe.

Cheers