Independent films

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:59 pm

I'll check it out. another great korean movie is Sword in the Moon. I went to see it a week ago, at the north-american premier, for the Fantasia fest. Pretty awesome movie. Beats the shit out of Braveheart and such.

The state of cinema is pretty sad in North-America. All movies are full of goodwill, morals, good sentiments and overused clichÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s. I mean it's not bad, but the Good triumphing on Evil is getting annoying, as well as the happy ending, the manly, viril hero, the teenage girl wanting to be a woman, Julia Roberts... It's gotten like a standart now. And I think that's what refreshening about indie movies. A lot of movies from Asia and Europe are lacking this little touch too, which I think is great. There's probably the fact that asiatic, european or where ever's clichÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s are different and not overused here.

Once you start watching these movies, american ones really piss you off.

Edit : typos.

Mismatch · Post by **Mismatch** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:47 pm

I suppose short movies count too. If so, I feel you should download and watch thisone:

http://www.robotbastard.com/

And other films I recommend are (all arent independent, but none are hollywood):
Le Fabuleux destin d'AmÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©lie Poulain
Derzu Usala (All Akira Kurosawa movies in fact)
Spirited Away
Les Visiteurs (Hollywood made a remake of this called Just Visiting, but it sucks in comparison to this one)
Le Grand Bleu
Bio Zombie (Not that good, but rather fun)
Battle Royale
Dellamorte Dellamore
Good bye, Lenin!
Hrafninn flÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â½gur (Icelandic flick, dont know the english title if there is any should be summit with the ravens flight)
ÃƒÆ’? skugga hrafnsins (the Sequel of the film above, could be called shadow of the raven in english)

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:09 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Once you start watching these movies, american ones really piss you off.

I donno, they can be fun to watch, but they're so empty of anything like real thought. I'm entertained by them but I don't like any of them.

I'm seriously considering switching my major in college to Cinema from Fine Art. I donno, maybe I'll actually wait until I start FA before I change my mind again

I have decided that one way or another I'm going to try my hand at some simple directing. Most economical way I've found is to build myself some sort of badassed uber computer. Film is damned expensive.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:50 pm

Yeah, numeric is the way.

I still agree some movies are fun and entertaining, but most are too full of craps with teenage girls and denmark princes.

I just saw Arthur, which was pretty fucking good until you first met Guenievre. From that point, it just goes down the hill. The relationship between she and Arthur is cheap and predictable and that leather S&M suit was pretty stupid. And Lancelot's friendship with Arthur looks like love.

In Sword in the Moon, the two main characters are best friends, and they'd die for each other (they actually do), but the director/writer manage to not make it look like they're gay.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:53 am

The Sword in the Stone will forever remain the greatest of all King Arthur movies.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:01 am

Excalibur baby.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:15 am

The new movie blew chunks. Not even any great fights or anything. Just stupidity wrapped in idiocy wrapped in boredom. I liked the costumes though. And they get -1020398712084701285708127508215 points for making Lancelot OMG TEH SWEET DUEL WEELDER!!!1111

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:10 am

Yeah, how about dropped plot threads huh?

"OMG I am Lancelot I will return! And apparently am the hero of the movie."

At the end -

"Lancelot, I, Guinevere know you love me and it's time for the classic Arthurian love triangle between us! Time for you to save my life and make it official!"

"Oops, I died."

And Arthur and Guinevere live happily ever after.

Ok, wtf.

The costumes were neat and I suppose (I don't know myself) that it's relatively historically accurate, but it was stupid as hell. What's up with that main Saxon having a quasi-texan accent? It showed through his unintelligible grumbling sometimes. Fucking retarded.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:15 am

The first retelling in a long time set in the proper era. At least they got that much right.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:25 am

After seeing Boorman's epic of Excalibur, I don't think any other Arthurian tale can match it.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:13 pm

Yeah, Excalibur is the greatest. Like I said earlier, Arthur was a neat movie until Guenievre showed up.

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