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Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:05 pm

PiP wrote:sorry, but it's bull. Morrowind "was "Well Done" in that it was fun for most all people", whether we like it or not - check reviews and stuff.

Reviews like the ones that said NWN's single player was the best role-playing experience ever made?

Morrowind was really only "well done" in terms of how they crafted the landscape and location lay outs. Other than that, I'm not sure how anyone can say it was well done. The dialogue was hideously bad and felt more like dealing with a poorly laid out web site than actual dialogue. The combat was boring as shit, comprising mainly of R-Type style shoot or hold the button down for better shoot.

Wandering around and checking out the scenary was about all the fun there really was to Morrowind. Let's face it though, when combat is as bland as it was in Morrowind, and dialogue isn't good either, finding new towns isn't that great of a thing. Nor is finding one of those dungeon locations.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:42 pm

PsychoSniper wrote:But if you go for SW books, ignore the New Jedi Order story arc.

Think of it like POS, but for SW novels.

I've never read any SW books, but there is a new author who wrote two recent NJO books - Matthew Woodring Stover! He wrote Shatterpoint and something else, which were critically acclaimed (unlike the other NJO books, which are notorious for their awful writing and lack of class).

I thought as a SW afficionado, you might want the heads up

I'm going to read his NJO books as soon as I'm finished with his fantasy books, because he's a brilliant author.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:02 pm

Morrowind was "well-done" meaning it sold well and pleased the masses. Mainstream, but it still had some fake illusion of being hardcore. That's all.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:26 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:Morrowind was "well-done" meaning it sold well and pleased the masses. Mainstream, but it still had some fake illusion of being hardcore. That's all.

Kinda like you, then? HA! HA HA! HA HA HA! HA, I SAY! HA!

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:50 am

I'm well-done and I please the masses?

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:01 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:I'm well-done

I don't like rare meat.

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:05 am

Saint_Proverbius wrote:The combat was boring as shit, comprising mainly of R-Type style shoot or hold the button down for better shoot.

Your comparison of Morrowind with R-Type irks me. Such a fine game, why compare it to Morrowind?

Also, Morrowind had the option to automatically use the best attack in the options, so charging up an attack wasn't that necessary.

Wandering around and checking out the scenary was about all the fun there really was to Morrowind. Let's face it though, when combat is as bland as it was in Morrowind, and dialogue isn't good either, finding new towns isn't that great of a thing. Nor is finding one of those dungeon locations.

Specially when most dungeons were always centered about the same things, like a tomb with loot, a mine with loot, or a cave filled with monsters.... and loot.

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:06 am

s4ur0n27 wrote:I'm well-done

But are you done well?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:10 am

And what about me pleasing the masses?

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:12 am

But do the masses please you?

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:15 am

Certainly not.

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:22 am

Okie dokey.

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S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:25 am

Role-Player wrote:
Wandering around and checking out the scenary was about all the fun there really was to Morrowind. Let's face it though, when combat is as bland as it was in Morrowind, and dialogue isn't good either, finding new towns isn't that great of a thing. Nor is finding one of those dungeon locations.
Specially when most dungeons were always centered about the same things, like a tomb with loot, a mine with loot, or a cave filled with monsters.... and loot.

Yeah, I just couldn't believe it when I got the that 7 dungeons quest. And then you find glass armor everywhere.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:15 am

PiP wrote:sorry, but it's bull. Morrowind "was "Well Done" in that it was fun for most all people"

Let me put it this way. Morrowind was "well done" in the sense that "Metal Gear Solid 2" was well done. It (MGS 2) sold a pretty good number, it got some of the best reviews to memory, yet it was still a rather shitty game aside from play mechanics and graphics. Really the only thing Morrowind did well was have a decently well done world and for the time pretty good graphics.

Also - Why is it that when I check reviews our family favorite "Brother of Steel" comes up with way more positive reviews then it deserves. Most magazines I read gave it a 7 or higher on a scale of 10.

lacking story

And Morrowind didn't?

In most respects, Morrowinds fun in the same sense Everquest is fun, which isn't very fun as compared to monotous gameplay disguised as fun. Last I checked Everquest was still one of the most played MMORPG's around. ToEE's gameplay FAR better suits Fallout then anything I can remember Bestheda doing.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:23 am

WoW is going to be fun... and I don't even play MMORPG's.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:59 pm

What was the point of WoW?

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:40 pm

@ Saint P.:

s4ur0n27 wrote:Morrowind was "well-done" meaning it sold well and pleased the masses.

that is exactly what I meant. I also meant reviews are good, like these:
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/ ... =morrowind (check scores from particular sites in the box down the page) I'm not saing Morro IS good, as a matter of fact I have no personal opinion on tha matter as I haven't played it. I just pointed out that pretty many review scores were pretty high, which is kind of contrary to what Walt wrote. That's all. Altogether, in my post I was talking about Morrowind's reception among the masses of regular gamers (the evidence for which being reviews quoted/linked) and not among hardcore sophisticated RPG gamers like You Saint. All of us here value the opinion of hardcore gamers more, but it doesn't bear on the case when we talk about what "all people like".

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:17 pm

Morrowind was a mainstream game disguised as an hardcore RPG.

LlamaGod · Post by **LlamaGod** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:46 pm

Morrowind got a 'Most Overrated Game' thingy from GameSpy once, I think.

And I agree there, too many people went giggly over small tricks or just did auto-fellation for teh devloaprer resispeiscts and xlcucivez and the full game itsself is weak, shallow and boring.

PsychoSniper · Post by **PsychoSniper** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:48 pm

s4ur0n27 wrote:Morrowind was a mainstream game disguised as an hardcore RPG.

lol