Fallout fans 'the worst there are'

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:37 am

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Feargus has been <a href="http://www.gamepro.com/computer/pc/game ... rviewed</a> at <a href="http://www.gamepro.com">GamePro.com</a>, mainly about <a href="www.atari.com/nwn2/">NWN 2</a>, but he talks a bit about <a href="http://www.bethsoft.com">Bethesda</a> aquiring the rights to Fallout 3 as well.
 
 <blockquote>GP: Changing the subject, since you headed both Fallout 1 and 2, do you have any thoughts on Bethesda taking on Fallout 3?
 
 FU: I'm cool with it. I mean that's why I didn't want to leave Black Isle for so long because I wanted to make the next Fallout, and knew if I left that I couldn't make Fallout. It's one of those things that I want to wish them the best of luck--Fallout fans are the worst fans there are. I'd still like to make another Fallout, but something that worries me is whether or not making another Fallout makes sense. It was cool and a lot of fun seven years ago, but is it pertinent anymore? Both of those games sold about 500-750,000 games--it's not a blockbuster, but still pretty good for a game like that--would still that many people buy it? It's a different market now--that was around the last time that people can ship sleeper hits--it's hard to have a sleeper hit now because if something doesn't sell in two weeks Walmart wants its shelf space back. I think it's tough. My personal opinion is I don't think that Bethesda will make a game that's like a Fallout 3. I had an argument on some forum recently and said that having another Fallout game in another way of playing would be great. I don't think Interplay's game--I haven't played it so I can't say--but the reviews weren't that great. Would I like to make another Fallout? Yes, but I don't go out and search for it. </blockquote>
 
 Indeed. Gotta chase those SLAM DUNKS! in the form of <a href="http://www.bioware.com">Bioware</a> hand downs, eh Feargus?

Post by **DarkUnderlord** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:16 am

Heh. Feargus knows all about what sells and what doesn't!!

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:25 am

Worst there are? Well I love him too, I love fat predujeced nerds.

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:11 am

I guess since we're not offering to suck him and NWN2 off, we're 'the worst there are'.

EDT: And let's not forget, this is the same person who a few days ago was talking about how great NWN's single player campaign was.
There's no doubt the Beth devs are going to have a hard time. However I've talked to a few of them, and my impressions are that they genuinely want to interact with the community on here, NMA and even RPGCodex, flame wars and all, which can only be a good sign. They also know how fans feel about Tactics and BOS, for instance, and how they were far inferior to the first two games. As a result I am slightly more hopeful about where they may take the franchise. Of course with no firm details to discuss, a lot of things are still up in the air.

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:23 pm

Feargus, in two interviews, has basically made himself be more disliked by Fallout fans than Bethesda.

That's a mighty achievement.

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:45 pm

He just wants them to know what they're in for. Yeah, we're demanding. Yeah, we're not quiet either. Many of us know the difference between a line of crap we're being fed and can filter out the meaning behind it.

Then again, there's a bunch of newer people who stroke it red and raw to any piece of info from Van Buren just because chatty has beens are trying to cling to a fleeting moment of fame.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:16 pm

The worst there are? The worst what? Are we the worst supporters of quality products? Are we the worst spellers? Are we the worst when it comes to coherent arguments? Are we the worst players in CS ladders? Personally I think BG fans are the worst....

PsychoSniper · Post by **PsychoSniper** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:54 pm

That's it.

The Fergaus characther by the well in FO2 dies. NOW!

::goes ingame::

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:06 pm

Mr. Teatime wrote:Indeed. Gotta chase those SLAM DUNKS! in the form of Bioware hand downs, eh Feargus?

I'd bet that Feargus honestly thinks he could make a FO3 that sold well. He just doesn't want to admit it.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:09 pm

Jimmyjay86 wrote:The worst there are? The worst what? Are we the worst supporters of quality products? Are we the worst spellers? Are we the worst when it comes to coherent arguments? Are we the worst players in CS ladders? Personally I think BG fans are the worst....

I think he meant to say that we're the hardest to please, but that's just a guess... I hope he didn't mean to say we're simply bad people.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:16 pm

Fallout fans are the worst fans there are.

:tears:

Damn him.

SDMVersion3 · Post by **SDMVersion3** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 6:15 am

We r u the wurst fans evar!

I'm hurt. I wish skirt wearing pansies wouldn't be so mean.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:46 am

He's apperantly never met a yaoi fan. Ofcourse...there are lines between "Fan" and "Obsession" I suppose. Still, I don't really imagine us as "Worst fans" infact, I'd rather think of us as quite the opposite. We care about the product and the where its heading. Not many game series can claim to have people who actually CARE about their product line enough to actually criticize them or tell them they're making a stupid decision. Sure, we all argue about things we want in the next fallout, or what would make the next fallout better, but we do so because we want the best possible product. So in actuallity, we want to murder Herve and send dead rabbits to Chuck (well I do) simply because we care.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:19 am

Yes!

Saint_Proverbius · Post by **Saint_Proverbius** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:54 am

Wolfman Walt wrote:He's apperantly never met a yaoi fan.

How about their other fanbases? The ones who write erotic fan fictions about Imoen and make mods where you can sex her up in BG and BG2? Imoen, who just happens to be the player character's sister in the game. There's several sites devoted to that kind of thing.

I'd rather have a dedicated and rabid fan base demanding quality over one that wants to fuck their pink haired sister in the game.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:57 am

If I remember correctly, didn't the mod require your character to be a female as well? I remember hating BG2 for afew weeks after reading about that mod. Apperantly they explained it that while on the island that the evil guy (Icarus) did alot of "Evil things to her" so she only now takes comfort and love from females.......how heart warming.

Sadly, thats the sort of thing I expected from the yaoi community, except a gay relationship between the main character and Minsc and Boo. If such a mod exists.......I am not suprised in the least.

Janus Matchell · Post by **Janus Matchell** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:54 am

Kashluk wrote:Yes!

Nice use of a Maddox picture there Kashluk. That should be the truth though when it comes to keeping developers in check.

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:51 am

I don't understand this criticism we get. All we want is a sequel to FO to keep the things that made the first games good, like turn based combat. Developers just keep wanting to change that for the mainstream appeal.

Mismatch · Post by **Mismatch** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:57 am

Well, I suppose we could comfort ourselves with the fact that atleast we're famous.

Mebbe them game devs aren't too good with criticism... And well, indedd mainstream sucks. But too not mainstream may be bad too... "The return of the slobbery cunt" is not a game I'd fancy.

But I do agree that we arent that picky, we just know what we want and how we'd like if. but we never get it.
Like childmolestors.

Role-Player · Post by **Role-Player** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:22 pm

Saint_Proverbius wrote:
Wolfman Walt wrote:He's apperantly never met a yaoi fan.
How about their other fanbases? The ones who write erotic fan fictions about Imoen and make mods where you can sex her up in BG and BG2?

In a way, every Bhaalspawn were brothers and sisters... in the sense that Bhaal was theri father, but they were all birthed by different mothers. I don't know if Bhaal's seed worked as any known human form of reproduction or if it was just a ceremony involving magic. Regardless, the PC and Imoen were only brothers in regards to having the same father, but not the same mother.

Still, its a somewhat dim-witted thing.

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