Aliens versus Predator - Spoilers

[Guest]

Aliens:Tribes

Holy shit!!! Gimme some!

[Janus Matchell]

Aliens: Tribes is an old book that tells the story of queen and here brood stuck on a spacestation. Each page is awesomely done by Dave Dorman who just brings the story to life. Think of tribes as a Storybook for adults.

[King of Creation]

Oohh goody...looks like Mr. Anderson didn't fuck up as bad as we though:

With no press screenings before any interviews, no-one has really had a chance to query the filmmakers on what went wrong with the quickly divisive "Alien vs. Predator". Questions have swirled about the PG-13 rating, the truncated runtime, the questionable elements that seem to ignore the previous film lore (eg. the sped up alien breeding cycle).

n a special Q&A industry screening, Paul W.S. Anderson was there to take questions from the audience about the film after it was shown and <a href="http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index. ... e=newsfull" target="_blank">Bloody Disgusting</a> was on hand to file a report. Here's a look at the most important questions:

"About the studio's cutting of the film, which he had no control over, he said, and I quote, "All of the best scenes were cut." Anderson was obviously very annoyed at the way the film was released. However, this was not purely because of the PG-13 limitation, which incidentally, the studio enforced THREE WEEKS before the release date! It was always going to be R until then.

Part of the reason for the cutting was that some of the effects were not ready by the time the release date came around. The effects team had very little time to do anything.

As far as the content that was cut, apparently we see all those who die, die on screen, but he also said that there is a sub-plot that we will have to wait for on DVD. Yes there will be an R-rated Director's cut DVD although they don't know the release date yet."

For the full interview which goes into detail about scenes cut, the ignored Pete Briggs script, etc. then <a href="http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index. ... e=newsfull" target="_blank">click here</a>.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/040819d.php


I'd definitely take the time to read the transcripts on Bloody Disgusting. They go into detail with Paul Anderson about lots of things that were wrong with the movie, and apparently, most of the blame goes to the studio. Things like the hugely increased growth cycle of the alien, etc, were discussed.

Also, seems ANderson himself is EXTREMELY pissed at the way the studio cut the film. I mean, for chrissake, cutting an R film to PG-13 3 weeks before release?? Stupid.

[Saint_Proverbius]

The idea that they wanted to show the queen alien pumped full of hormones to make her breed faster is pretty ass on it's own. With or without that explanation, it's still a lame fucking idea. They couldn't come up with an idea that fits in with their lame assed Ziggurat story, so they came up with hormones?

How, exactly, would you pump a queen alien with hormones in the first place? They're silicon based creatures with exoskeletons. Once you get passed the hard bits, you get the nice acid blood. So yeah, that's just stupid shit.

Even if they did perfect the hormone thing, which is stupid, Predators like to hunt hostile things that are capable of fighting, right? Then WHY THE HELL DID THEY MERELY CAPTURE THAT QUEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? The queen is the biggest bad ass alien there is, the ultimate prize from a hunt! ..and they just capture it? WTF?

This movie would have been ass regardless of a director's cut with all the scenes because the story is ass.

[Mr. Teatime]

I'll look into the R rated directors cut that they talk about <a href="http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index. ... l">here</a>. Event Horizon is one of my favourite films but apparantly it was the exception to this director's work.

[Janus Matchell]

I feel like an asshole for busting Anderson's chops about AvP. Well I am really glad he tried to do more for the franchise in a good way but the corporate whores at fox turned AvP into a suck fest which seriously sucks chode. So Paul W.S. Anderson is not to blame the assholes who run fox are so lets just start flaming them.

[Saint_Proverbius]

I feel like an asshole for busting Anderson's chops about AvP. Well I am really glad he tried to do more for the franchise in a good way but the corporate whores at fox turned AvP into a suck fest which seriously sucks chode. So Paul W.S. Anderson is not to blame the assholes who run fox are so lets just start flaming them.

He even said he went with that screenplay because he wanted to make it his own, so the buck doesn't stop with FOX.

[Janus Matchell]

Thanks for pointing that out SP. I totally forgot about that infact there was an original script that was shelved by Dark Horse? Right? It was discussed years and years ago back in good old 1994 when everything was simple and Bill Clinton was getting BJ's in the white house. Goog times. But seriously what happened to the original AVP script?

[King of Creation]

Dark Horse wouldn't let them use it.

[Janus Matchell]

Those assholes. WHY!? It would have been grood and awesome because if I remember correctly it followed the 1992 comic series to a T. which was a badass introduction series for AvP.

[Mismatch]

Well, I suppose that interview (Or what you should call it) explains a lot. Though I must say I am dissapointed. Might just get the directors cut, to see what it was supposed to be like.

Predators like to hunt hostile things that are capable of fighting, right? Then WHY THE HELL DID THEY MERELY CAPTURE THAT QUEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? The queen is the biggest bad ass alien there is, the ultimate prize from a hunt! ..and they just capture it? WTF?

Maybe them queenies are hard to catch and, if the pyramid was supposed to be used multiple times, hey just might have wanted to be able to reuse the queen.

[Janus Matchell]

Here's the dealy with the queen in AvP they don't kill the queens because they are really hard to replace also I'm sure that killing on is no easy task even if you have the plasma caster because the queens have superior as to whats going on also she can sense what people or things are going to do in her presence because she is pschic hence the being able to tell here hive what do from the safety of her egg sack.

If you've read the comics then you should know the trouble it is to capture one. They kill upwards to 50% of the for sent to capture a queen because she isn't going to go like a bitch.

[Wolfman Walt]

Queens have the intelligence of a minor genius if not higher, they basically control the whole hive telepathically and such. Really after the face huggers hatch and impregnate someone, she could care less about the drones, however, she gets thuroughly pissed when the eggs are messed with.

[Saint_Proverbius]

So, basically, they're nerfing the hunt? Like I said, humans are probably the worst things to use for generating the aliens because humans have no natural defenses. They're weak. There are lots of animals in the wild that would generate much better aliens than humans, so there's no point to using humans if you want a good hunt.

So, in addition to that, no hunting the queen? The queen, which is the biggest challenge there is when dealing with aliens?

If the Predators are all about a GOOD HUNT, both those things don't make sense at all.

[Wolfman Walt]

I think we're approaching this movie wrong in the sense that we want it to make sense when it simply can't because there were too many stupid mistakes in the writing made.

[Janus Matchell]

I think we're approaching this movie wrong in the sense that we want it to make sense when it simply can't because there were too many stupid mistakes in the writing made.

WW is right on all counts. When the script was written it was as if they ignored all the other Aliens and Predator comics and movies so they could do whatever the hell they wanted. But they should remember that fans will not see the next one if there are not any improvements upon the series. POS Anderson never ceases to amaze with his deteriorating skill as a director.

[Wolfman Walt]

They not only ignore that, but common sense on some parts.

[Janus Matchell]

They not only ignore that, but common sense on some parts.

Were they just not thinking when they wrote the screenplay/ script/ plot for Avp. I heard that they edited out like an entire subplot and other things that would have made AvP good.

[Stainless]

I heard that they edited out like an entire subplot and other things that would have made AvP good.

wow. where'd you hear that?

I havn't seen it. probibly won't go see it, unless I get someone else to pay for my ticket.

[Janus Matchell]

I heard that they edited out like an entire subplot and other things that would have made AvP good.

wow. where'd you hear that?

I havn't seen it. probibly won't go see it, unless I get someone else to pay for my ticket.

Good question if am wrong oh well, but I think I heard it on bloodydigustuing. As far going to go see it is concerned see it when it comes to DVD it willhopefully have all that was missing from AvP such as plot and character development.