The Movies, Music, and Games thread

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:32 pm

There's too much good music, movies and books of different style, atomosphere and feeling. I change everyday

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:18 pm

Y'all have way too much time on your hands, seriously.

Franz wrote:I could give a shit about what music he likes... but Kill Bill?? It was all style and no substance, but bad style. What was meant as an homage turned out to be just a bad imitation at best, insulting mockery at worst.

Yes, but that's your opinion. I think Kill Bill is, on the surface, a "wink-wink" homage, but beneath the clever-film-geek-auteur facade is an emotionally involving, exciting, action-packed movie. Why do you think I liked it so much? I hate movies that simply rely on self-conscious irony, quirkiness, and nostalgic references in order to make it through two hours. Kill Bill relies on plot, emotional buildup, vivid characters, and smart dialogue as much as any other movie out there. That stuff gives the movie resonance, which goes far beyond what any simple "homage" could do.

People give Tarantino far too little credit as a filmmaker; he understands that movies are about story, first and foremost, and that they should be gripping, involving stories. Kill Bill is that, and then some. Pulp Fiction, on the other hand, is all style and no substance. Give me one good reason for that movie to exist. I can see why it caused such a splash when it first came out, and I see why it's been so influential ever since. But it's virtually plotless, too clever for its own good, and it just goes on, and on, and on, with no direction or purpose. I'm suprised Tarantino is behind both movies, since they're so radically different.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:16 pm

Arh, Pulp Fiction is better than Kill Bill for exactly the same reasons you just gave us for Kill Bill to be good.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:59 pm

Hear, hear.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:29 pm

Either way, it's an opinion. Don't get all pissy and childish just because I disagree with you. People have dissed both Garbage and Kill Bill in this thread, but you don't see me personally attacking anyone because of it. Take a pill.

By the by, how "temporary" is this avatar, Teatime?

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:40 pm

There you go. It's a shame to lose that awesome Avril Lavigne picture I found, though

Doc Hill · Post by **Doc Hill** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:48 pm

BEst bands for me-Audioslave,Garbage, Billy Idol, Ramones, Tears for Fears , Greenday (don't care if they have gone pop) Peter Frampton
Best ALbums-Nimrod, Beautiful Garbage, Audioslave, Anythign by my lord god Peter Frampton
Best Movies- SHawshank Redemption, Evil dead trilogy, Star Wars Trilogy, Anything by Kevins smit, From Mallrats to J&SBSB.XXX. Johnny Mnumonic( What can I say, I thought it was hilarious.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:04 pm

I can't see everyones fascination with Queen. They are far from my favorite.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:13 pm

Me, neither. They're just so over-the-top I can't take them seriously. And Freddie's singing on "Somebody To Love" makes me want to smash things.

Doc Hill wrote:Best ALbums-Nimrod, Beautiful Garbage, Audioslave, Anythign by my lord god Peter Frampton

Ew, beautifulgarbage blew. (Except for "Cherry Lips" and "Breaking Up The Girl", of course.)

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:16 am

Yeah, V2.0 was the best I thought. Although the first one was good as well.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:44 pm

Band: Genesis (Peter Gabriel / Steve Hackett era)
Track: Thick As A Brick / Jethro Tull (all 45 delicious minutes of it)
Movie: Currently it's Dr. Strangelove.
Game: Fallout.
Frequency: 60 Hz.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:46 pm

My frequency's 70 Hz. On a 19" TFT with a 16 ms response time, YEAH BABEH.

atoga · Post by **atoga** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:08 pm

We're not talking just about monitor frequencies, you know. 60 Hz is good in almost any situation.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:18 pm

72 Hz

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:58 pm

60Hz is horrible to look at, 75 is the absolute minimum I'll look at.

Spazmo · Post by **Spazmo** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:18 pm

I usually ryde or dye at 85 Hz, though my monitor isn't so happy about doing that at 1600x1200.

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:37 am

Subhuman wrote:Kill Bill relies on plot, emotional buildup, vivid characters, and smart dialogue as much as any other movie out there.

I think the main thing that ruined Kill Bill for me was the dialogue... it was odd and cumbersome, and unrealistic.

The dialogue in Pulp Fiction really had a natural feeling to it.

Ernesto · Post by **Ernesto** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:41 am

I don't know how one can say Kill Bill relied on plot when it's paper thin.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:42 am

And Pulp Fiction isn't?

Franz Schubert · Post by **Franz Schubert** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:58 am

Pulp Fiction didn't rely on plot... nobody is saying that. Pulp Fiction's depth comes from the character interaction and the general sense of "realistic-ness" that each of the stories has.