Scars of a Million.

bloodbathmaster2 · Post by **bloodbathmaster2** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 11:48 am

I thought I should tell everyone who hasn't caught on by now. Scars of a Million, the single player mod for FoT, has been cancelled. It was a good idea, great story, and had potental. Too bad no progress was ever made. I made the decision when my own map was mysteriously fucked beyond repair some three months ago. I've been discussing with Downed System about turning it into a giant fanfic, but I can't make any guarantees. Sorry people.

War Bringer · Post by **War Bringer** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 3:44 pm

weren't a few maps already completed? what will happen to those?

Max-Violence · Post by **Max-Violence** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 1:51 am

Man... another SP campaign bites the dust...

Are you going to be making any more maps for FOT (preferably SP)?

bloodbathmaster2 · Post by **bloodbathmaster2** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:09 am

I'm not making any more, sorry. The ones we currently have still need scripting, and were not really the best examples of what SOAM really was. In other words, I'm not going to to release the maps I have.

Max-Violence · Post by **Max-Violence** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:12 am

I meant will you be making any more FOT maps at all, i.e. single SP maps, mini-campaigns, etc.

I guess the real question is, "Are you quitting the FOT mapping scene entirely?"

I, for one, hope not.

bloodbathmaster2 · Post by **bloodbathmaster2** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:44 am

Yup. I know it kind of sucks, but I've de-installed FoT and I'm moving on.

Red · Post by **Red** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:21 am

Heh, yeah FO:T's like that... You invent so much time into it only to get screwed in the long run... I've been wary of putting too much work into it myself because of that. At least the map I lost was entirely MY fault :!:... Personally I don't like FO:T for three main reasons. The first is that there's too much hardcoded. The second is that if you make your maps more interesting (ie try to use smaller tiles to increse randomness and detail), the occlusion almost always has trouble, and the third being that the scripting really sucks.

There's several other problems but these can be overlooked: bugs and the lack of the tile and sprite editors... And also it's deviation from the Fallout universe, and lack of real dialog trees.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:23 am

Well, until Mapper is fully released with all of the capabilities that the Tactics editor has, this is the closest thing that there is to extending the Fallout universe. I like the things that MV, Endocore and others have done with the editor and I think regardless of how you feel about Tactics, this stuff has potential to do alot for Fallout.

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 10:16 pm

I don't think the mapper will improve things for FO either. Down to the core, you can't really expect the developers of games to do all the basic work for you without a financial gain. It will always be difficult while its up to them...
So Mapper or not, FoT Tools are as good as we can get and we'll better be prepared to invest a lot of time to it. Isn't this the way to do things you love in any case?

OnTheBounce · Post by **OnTheBounce** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 10:48 pm

Sorry to hear that, BBM. I'm well aware of how much work a SP campaign is, especially if you want to make it worth "hanging your hat on".

I myself am very much behind schedule - Sixty days to completion?! Yeah, right!!! - but I'm still hanging in there and am commited to fighting it out to the bitter end.

Max-Munchkin wrote: Man... another SP campaign bites the dust...

Unfortunately this was my rather dire prediction for the vast majority of this type of project from the beginning. Sometimes it sucks to be right.

Flamescreen wrote:I don't think the mapper will improve things for FO either.

I could if we get some motivated and talented people who are willing/able to cooperate. Otherwise it's just too much damned work for one person to do. (FO-engine mini-game, anyone?)

OTB

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Wed Jun 05, 2002 12:35 am

OnTheBounce wrote: I could if we get some motivated and talented people who are willing/able to cooperate. Otherwise it's just too much damned work for one person to do. (FO-engine mini-game, anyone?)

Well if you see the comments of most of the people wanting to do anything new with the mapper, I think most of them say something like: I will do this new area...