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Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:32 am

Ok i am going to try and make a tileset but am a little confused with Red's tile editor. How do i start? do i draw a tile in like paint or something then open it with the veiwer or what? i have some pretty cool ideas for tiles but i just dont know where to start can someone please help thanks.

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:26 pm

I have made a tutorial for it. JJ86 hosts it in his NMA page. Search for it in his tutorials section.

Jimmyjay86 · Post by **Jimmyjay86** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:17 pm

http://jj86.nma-fallout.com/tile_tutorial.shtml

You will need something more advanced than MSPaint though. If you don't have photoshop try GIMP or if you have a 3d program you can export the objects in the correct perspective views. It is tricky to get the correct perspective otherwise when starting from scratch.

Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:06 am

thanks for the tutorial

i do have a 3d program but i dont know how high in the program to set the walls etc like the normal 12WU walls i cant even do the tiles 6 x 6WU and another thing is the perspective do you have any idea as to how to set the perspective correctly or do i have to just guess and hope to get it right?

Is it possible to download Photoshop from somewhere and do you know a place to download GIMP?

Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:32 am

i hate this forum it tells me like every single time i try and do something invalid session and it takes me like 50 tries

Flamescreen what do you mean draw a tile do I have to draw it in perfect perspective or what can you maybe send me a screenshot of the first step ( dont think im stupid and can draw something) i just want to know if i had to draw in perspective because in the tutorial it says You will have to select it then, I suggest using the Marquee rectangular tool, selecting a small area, what do you mean by that please send screen or help me out thanks.

Flamescreen · Post by **Flamescreen** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:01 am

Well, for one you don't have to draw neccessarily, you can grab a pic or 3d model already made and make your tile. What I did and would work best for you probably would be:

Think what you want the tile used for. Let's assume it is a lamp. Use redviewer to get an image from a lamp tile. Use this as a model for yours, perspective and everything(put it right next to your image) or even use it and draw over it if you have to. Photoshop is very useful in that you can check the image size with it, so you can see how small you should make your images.

If you use Photoshop, you can change the perspective later, but it's not easy(jj86 is good at it), better to draw in it. I'm saying you have to select meaning, the finished image. Note I'm saying you need photoshop(above 5.0) we couldn't do things with other tools, plus FoT designers used it themselves.

If you want you can even use the lasso tool, but I'm not good in handling it so I'm suggesting what works for me. I'll try to link here a pic by tomorrrow, but if you're not using Adobe Photoshop, know you'll not have success. Photoshop's Alpha channel is essential. Oh, and the tutorial is also available here in the FoT files area. Forgot, but they were building this one for too long.

[Edit]Lets see about those pics:

http://flamepage.1accesshost.com/GrowCommand.jpg

http://flamepage.1accesshost.com/GrowEffect.jpg

Sorry but you'll have to copy paste them. Blah, and even this won't work. Chaos could you see them? I couldn't! Seesm like i'll have to change a site. If you'll give me your email, i can send them there.

Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:09 pm

thanks for everything i put it all in my archives but im going to scrap this part of my campaign for maybe a later date. thanks again

jc577 · Post by **jc577** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:42 pm

Hey Chaos,

I found photoshop at there homesite, Also they have a fully functional trial version of Photoshop CS 8.0 it's pretty cool. I'm not sure on Gimp
you might try Programmers Heaven or 3D Links.com

Enjoy!!!

Post by **Retlaw83** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:19 pm

Chaos doesn't post here anymore. What he wrote is over a year and a half old.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:19 am

I'm sure he's been lurking for a year and a half waiting for that answer though, so it's OK.

jc577 · Post by **jc577** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:32 pm

hey there,

I was just surfing for a version of gimp on google and found it at

software.sfcc.com
If you type in full trial version of gimp editor in google and go down about 3rd or 4th listing there she blow's

Just thought someone might be interested?

You all have been very helpful to me with my tile making problems and I greatly appreciate all the info Thank's

jc577

Red · Post by **Red** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:48 pm

http://www.gimp.org

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:12 am

Damn, I was hoping for some hardcore bondage action from that link. What a let down.

I've never tried out the Gimp art package, any good? How does it compare to the usual ones (Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, Corel)?

Red · Post by **Red** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:30 am

Better but more complicated to handle. Some stuff takes longer to acheive albeit you have total control over pretty much everything.

Chaos · Post by **Chaos** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:57 am

yo guys i am back, i know this is a very old post but thanks for replying. i know i havnt posted in forever but its because i lost everything on my comp and could never figure out the new website since the last time i had a working comp the website was www.duckandcover.net so it took me quite a while to find the dame website again. i have had to completely start over on everything to do with my campaign because even all my backup shit got lost so everything turned into a giant pile of crap.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:05 am

Damn. Thread digging for teh win.

Welcome back, Chaos.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:40 pm

Sweet baby Jesus! That must be the longest wait for an answer on a forum I've seen yet. Looks like he was lurking all that time for it.

Welcome back.

Duck and Cover

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