Intelligent Falling

[Franz Schubert]

After Newton wrote down his theory of gravity, he made an apple pie and violently raped it to consummate his brilliance.

My physics text quite clearly states that it was a batch of plum pudding, not "apple pie", which wasn't to be invented for another 150 years. Get your history straight, skag.

[Janus Matchell]

So wait a tic, your saying that it isn't gravity making old people down stairs but God in some sort of get rich quick scheme even though he/she/it (shit) is already all powerful or is it the evangelist killing all of these old people?

[Aegeri]

After Newton wrote down his theory of gravity, he made an apple pie and violently raped it to consummate his brilliance.

My physics text quite clearly states that it was a batch of plum pudding, not "apple pie", which wasn't to be invented for another 150 years. Get your history straight, skag.

And afterwards, Newton went on to build a giant robotic spider and take over all of America.

That's what any self respecting scientist does.

[vx trauma]

What is with mad scientists and taking over Amerika? Why always the states? How about Colombia with all those nice secret plantations. That's were I would wreak havoc with my giant meachanized spider with coke-moustasche. Yee-haaw!!

[screw684]

So where can i find the origional? [][B)][]

[Franz Schubert]

Learn phpBB code or b&

[CrazyNick]

Divine Theology - God contolls all of the palnets forces

Newtons Law(gravity) - The Earth's mass is so large that all smaller masses are pulled towards the ceter of the erath which has the greatest mass. This force of gravity is the only thing that keeps of from floating off the planet and into space

If ya don't believe in gravity throw a brick above your head and stand under it. Or jumb off something high above the ground.

[Spazmo]

Idiot. Newton's theory only describes the *how* of gravity. He had absolutely no idea as to the *why*. Modern physicists are working on theories involving horrible quantum thingies to explain gravity, but some people instead suggest that God causes gravity. Religious people don't doubt the existence of gravity or how physicists say it works, they only offer a particular explanation of why it works.

[Lynxer]

It's preposterous to assume there is a 'reason' for gravity. The significance of such an ultimate question is limited to the realm of human perception.

[Koki]

God, what next, Sea of Dirac?

[Redeye]

Its all because of orcs.

"Intelligent Orcs!

Orcs, Orcs, Orcs!

Everyone has orcs!"

(repeat)

Theyr'e like Daemons in the woodwork.


Fuckin' orcs, all because of that Blood God...

[Mismatch]

on a related topic:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/26 ... _in_court/

[Franz Schubert]

Here's a better article, from AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050926/ap_ ... ion_debate

The IDer's have God, and the President on their side... how can they can lose, right?

[Bukkake]

Hahhaha, that was an excellent article.

[Bukkake]

Newton is believed to have never had any kind of sexual involvement during his entire life. HE DIED A VIRGIN HAHAHA. I bet he wished he had bigger apples obeying the laws of gravity.

But unlike you or anyone else any of us will ever know, Newton made discoveries and creations that have served as significantly accurate tools of science for a few centuries. And his contributions of calculus are more significant than almost any mathematical or scientific contributions of the last few hundred years. Even with relativity we still have use for classical mechanics.

Newton was quite wrong as the jerk forgot to account for relativity. Classical mechanics isn't strictly true, but it's true enough that it works most of the time.

Yeah, Newton's Laws still serve as valuable tools for measurements and calculations in non-relativistic inertial frames. But the Galilean transformations serve for relative motion frames in classical mechanics. But also, there was not a lot Newton would have been able to do with relativity to a meaningful degree, since the speed of light was not known in his lifetime. So it would have been rather impossible to formulate a successful theory of special relativity without the knowledge of the speed of light.

[Radoteur]

What I hate is that scientists are defending their theories with such rabidity that they're having a really hard time looking at them objectively.

My chem book has a really good intro about science.

[Bukkake]

What I hate is that scientists are defending their theories with such rabidity that they're having a really hard time looking at them objectively.

Well, for starters, that isn't even remotely true.

For a scientific theory to be accepted as a scientific theory, it must undergo numerous experiments and observations to see if the results agree with the predictions within reasonable uncertainties. Only after it is shown that the theories are met with successful outcomes of observations/predictions, and there is not a SINGLE experiment that disproves them, are they accepted as accurate theories. If a single experiment shows a theory to be wrong, the theory is wrong. This is one of the fundamental aspects of science - all theories and laws and such things must undergo scrutinous testing to be accepted, and without opposing theories with difficult problems, there is no progress or discovery.

But once a theory is verified and shown to be experimentally solid, scientists do defend it rabidly. Why? Because there is no reason not to. In science you go with the best explanation of a physical system. When every experiment and calculated prediction agrees with the postulates of a theory, there is no reason to assume it is wrong or that it does not at least effectively explain the system it is prescribed to to a satisfactory degree.

You say they have a hard time looking at these objectively? The entire process of experimentation and verifying theories IS BEING OBJECTIVE. Without this objectivity, they will not be able to truthfully say whether or not a theory is logical and reasonable or even remotely true. But like I said, once a theory is accepted, it is very happily defended. The only time it would not be defended is when there is evidence that goes against the theory, and it can be explicitly shown that this theory is wrong. There are cases of this in science, and we notice and accept their flaws. But until there are reasonable alternatives that can more accurately get the job done, there is nothing else to go to. The theory which works best is what is used until a new one supplants it.

[Radoteur]

Of course that's how it works ideally, but scientists are humans.

They become emotionally attached to their theories, and lose that precious, cold, scientific, intellectual objectivity.

Of course, it seems pretty obvious to me that the "intelligent fallers" have a political agenda, but I'm really talking about science in general. Like SETI. I think belief in aliens is sort of a quasi-science, as we have no way of knowing whether or not aliens exist. Other controversial areas of science as well -- like climate science.

I'm sure you probably know of plenty of instances where the greater scientific community focused on one discovery and ignored another, because it suited their interests. like Piltdown Man.

[Redeye]

Even though this is DAC, I feel a bit wrong posting in a science topic while drunk. In my youth, science was my refuge against the idiotic hordes. Now I just pack. If you know what I mean.
Or even if you don't. The bullets hit your eye like a big pizza pie.
But it's hate not love.
Fuck you, religious people.
And that includes many scientists, who believe w/o proper analysis.

Imagine a table which is extendable by adding a "leaf".
You add a section. Big deal.
So instead of a semi-tautological "scientific" system which says
"just because" or "that's just how it all came together", you have a
magical invisible man who did it. Then the rest of the theories operate
just like they already did, except with the magic god-leprechaun inserted
to add an anthropomorphic causality element.

"It's not because of the resonances in the cosmic strings... the
magical invisible man made it that way."
"And the rest is because of the...[whatever the scientists already figured out]...but it's all because the magic leprechaun set it up that way."

Another "leaf" is added to the table.
But The Song Remains The Same.

[Emn1ty]

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down,"

Ok, i am a CHristian myself (dont laugh, i still have many evil intentions), but that is going to far. Why the hell would you think that God is pushing us back to earth. I mean we are not the only planet with gravity.