New walls and floors for Fallout Tactics

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:07 am

requiem_for_a_starfury · Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:35 pm

Ouch where are my sunglasses. So bright I can't see.

Tone the colours down, adjust the gamma of the textures at least! Some of those walls, the wood and sheet metal would also look at lot, lot better if the thickness was varied. The wood walls look silly the same thickness as the stone.

And the textures from the RPGs try anti-aliasing them, they're so jagged they look really, really ugly.

The blue water looks interesting, is it animated? Or do they have any water to dirt/sand edges?

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:53 am

Before one year or more i dont remember exactly i downloaded tiles for Fallout Tactics from requiem. when INDIANOS saw requiem walls he said to me requiem is a common thief and a rat who stoles the art work from fallout tactics creators then requiem changed the color and the brightness (this is not difficult a baby over 1 year old can do the same) and he published them as his work.Then INDIANOS worked hard to make walls from zero not steal or bad copy like the thief requiem.
So a thief cant have opinion about a art work from zero the only he can do is to steal art work from others and then publish them for his work.
i dont care about requem opinion he is a meat for me nothing more or less.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:33 am

Oh shut up you idiot, I'm trying to help you with some constructive criticism. If you're going to release something at least make an attempt to make it look good. I dowloaded the last lot of tiles you two (are there two of you or are you psycho? Why doesn't Indianos publish his own work?) there was only one wall set that was usable, nothing else fitted in with the existing tiles.

I'm not a modeller, I started to mess around with the tiles to make something I needed for my maps. I only released them because that's what the community here does, share and share alike. I never pretended that I didn't edit existing tiles, if that's thieving then most skinners for a lot of games are thieves since they usually start with their game's existing resources.

And are you saying that you or Indianos didn't rip (steal in your terms), the textures from the RPGs to make that podium etc?

Not all of my tiles were simple recolours, several were made from scratch, which were awful, which is why I stopped making tiles. Something Indianos should consider. Or at least grow up and learn to take criticism in the spirit it was intended, friendly advice not a personal attack.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:40 am

AJAX wrote:Before one year or more i dont remember exactly i downloaded tiles for Fallout Tactics from requiem. when INDIANOS saw requiem walls he said to me requiem is a common thief and a rat who stoles the art work from fallout tactics creators then requiem changed the color and the brightness (this is not difficult a baby over 1 year old can do the same) and he published them as his work.Then INDIANOS worked hard to make walls from zero not steal or bad copy like the thief requiem.
So a thief cant have opinion about a art work from zero the only he can do is to steal art work from others and then publish them for his work.
i dont care about requem opinion he is a meat for me nothing more or less.

That doesn't change the fact that some of the textures look like crap. You can't see a distinction between walls and floor and some are just way too bright to look at. What's the point of posting here if you don't have the balls to receive criticism? Go back to your manwhore INDIANOS and follow requiems advice or at least work on your English.

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:17 pm

I see that the rat Vasikka support the thief requiem.iam from Hellas where are you rat Vasikka.You are lucky behind your safety of your pc.In real life you would never thought to write these for INDIANOS because you wouldnt had head and hands to use your keyboard.
You are very lucky coward rat Vasikka.

vx trauma · Post by **vx trauma** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:22 pm

ALL GREEKISH PEOPLE THIS STUPID?

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:52 pm

All of you are noobs with big mouth and no brain. if my walls and floors are ungly for you all show me your work to compare with my work. if you dont have any work to show shut up and hide in your rat holes.
All of you who dont like Greeks and say that i am stupid, i have to say something to you :

We Greeks support the Arabs and all of you in the west support the war criminals(George Bush, Ariel Sharon) so we are rivals you dont like me and i dont like you it is very simple. the USA and the U.K. steal the oil of Irag and they give it free to Israel. So it is natural that all of you are thieves with big mouth.
The biggest proof that Israel has no position at middle east is that all the states around it are enemies with Israel.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:29 pm

Your tiles now, not the mysterious Indianos. No I don't like your tiles, so you made some basic blocks and added textures. Whoopee do da, and what's real funny is some of those textures are from the RPGs and the windows are nicked from FOT's tiles anyway. So not all original work after all.

Call me a thief and you call anyone who has ever made a simple modification to a game's graphics a thief, even 'Indianos'.

I call you hypocrite. There are some really talented people who have made some totally original tiles for FOT, sadly 'Indianos' isn't one of them.

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:53 pm

Show me the real original tiles not just talk. i wait you to post screenshots and tell the names of the art creators.if indianos work isnt original work tell me what is original ?
show with screenshots better oroginal work if Indianos work is ungly and just textures on blocks.(show new walls textures not from fallout tactics)
About the windows download the indianos_tiles v 1.0 from duckandcover, then open the readme file and you will see that indianos writes that the windows are from fallout Tactics . i said that you are thief because you dont have a readme file that says that you just changed the color and the brightness of the fallout tactics tiles.if you write this you create a mod for fallout tactics if you dont you are a common thief. i wait you to tell me from which rpgs are the textures(show pictures to compare with indianos textures). Idianos writes this in readme file from INDIANOS_TILES V 1.0 :

INDIANOS TILES

I created new walls for FALLOUT TACTICS.

Exist three categories of walls: metal, Stone and wood.

I did not change colour or copied walls from FALLOUT TACTICS, they are all my creations apart from two types which
the drawing of them was lented by FALLOUT 2 ( Shady and Vault 15) .

The windows design was lented by FALLOUT TACTICS.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:11 pm

AJAX wrote:I see that the rat Vasikka support the thief requiem.iam from Hellas where are you rat Vasikka.You are lucky behind your safety of your pc.In real life you would never thought to write these for INDIANOS because you wouldnt had head and hands to use your keyboard.
You are very lucky coward rat Vasikka.

I love you too. Both of you.

We Greeks support the Arabs and all of you in the west support the war criminals(George Bush, Ariel Sharon) so we are rivals you dont like me and i dont like you it is very simple. the USA and the U.K. steal the oil of Irag and they give it free to Israel. So it is natural that all of you are thieves with big mouth.
The biggest proof that Israel has no position at middle east is that all the states around it are enemies with Israel.

It's funny you mix politics into this. If thievery helps to get rid of filthy cities, retarded alphabet and hairy women, then I'm proud to be a thief. And you're right, I couldn't make such crappy tiles by myself.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:20 pm

One I didn't add it to the read me because it would take a moron not to realise what I'd done, and two before I posted them I said here on this forum I've edited the original tiles did anyone want them and people said yes which is why I released them. When people use the original skins in FPS games to make new ones do they give step by step details of what they changed, no (unless they're anal retentive) because it's only a modification.

And I don't need to post screenshots, just download SenorDeluxe's tiles, they blow yours out of the water.

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:31 pm

Requiem you arent only a thief but a lier too. i never said that all the moderatores of Fallout Tactics are thieves i said this only for you. If you have common brain search my messages and tell me where i am saying that the other moderatores are thieves like you ?
Senor Deluxe did a great art work .
Requiem you are noob you only change the color and the brightness nothing else.

i wait an answer not silly comments

Sure you are brainless look the title of the post (NEW WALLS and FLOORS for Fallout Tacics). Where it says that indianos created new windows ? can you think and answer this question or just you will write again without thinking.

Requiem I WAIT YOU TO POST THE SCREENSHOTS OF THE RPG's from which indianos took the textures to create his walls ?
if you dont answer and post the screenshots you are ridiculous and i will ignore you.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:46 pm

You call all modders thieves by calling me one, since I don't do anything different than most other modders.

And if you look through the tile pack I released there are original tiles not just some recoloured or retextured so STFU.

AJAX wrote:Sure you are brainless look the title of the post (NEW WALLS and FLOORS for Fallout Tacics). Where it says that indianos created new windows ? can you think and answer this question or just you will write again without thinking

That's got to be the lamest excuse I've ever heard.

I try and help by pointing out how you can improve your tiles, and all you do is make personal attacks. Grow up, if you can't take criticism don't release stuff.

AJAX · Post by **AJAX** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:05 pm

Requiem you first attacked me saying that all the wood and metal walls are very very ungly . Is this criticism ? or Vasika words that all the walls are crap is also criticism ?
Where i said before your yesterday message that your walls are stolen and ungly as you did saying that the most new walls are ungly ?
it is the second time that you did the same(the first was when indianos published the INDIANOS_TILES V 1.0 at april 2005.
if you dont respect indianos work why i and indianos must respect you.
i am not the same person with indianos i only took his work and published the screenshots. We leave in the same city.

vx trauma · Post by **vx trauma** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:07 pm

Wow. Battle of the modders.

requiem_for_a_starfury · Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:20 pm

Yes it was criticism not an attack, when you first released 'Indianos' tiles v1.0 I suggested toning down the textures and brightness. Why because they don't fit in with the original tiles, why make tiles that don't fit in? There was only one set I could use and I said they made a reasonable church. You didn't respond, just released screenshots of more tiles that are even brighter than the others. So I restated what I said before, with more emphasis. Also the wood walls do look silly at the same thickness as the stone walls and some of those textures used do need anti-aliasing because they are very jagged which makes them look ugly.

I also said previously that the wall caps for the set I used were in fact all door caps, and not at all like wall caps should be, 1WU high and 1WU thick in several sections, 6WU 4WU etc. In the hopes that they would be corrected so I could use the tiles properly, not all buildings have flat roofs after all.

I'm not an artist I modded the tiles that I did, because I needed a different colour or darker tile to make my maps look right. Tiles should be made for what the mapper needs, not to stroke the ego of the tile maker.

Bloodlust · Post by **Bloodlust** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:06 am

vx trauma wrote:ALL GREEKISH PEOPLE THIS STUPID?

It's Greeks,Asshole.

Hopefully,the answer is no.Ajax propably has no idea on how things work in a modding community.

Post by **Retlaw83** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:37 am

I pride myself on being fair and whatnot, but I'm drunk.

Req offered constructive criticism. Ajax offered pre-pubescent posturing only the anonymity of the internet could let him get away with.

Boo-hoo. Your tiles weren't perceived well. Your options are to be civil, improve your work or shut your trap.

vx trauma · Post by **vx trauma** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:06 pm

Bloodlust wrote: It's Greeks,Asshole.

OH REALLY?

BACK TO THE WASTES.

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