Name a SINGLE new feature you want in FO3.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:23 pm

which one

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:07 pm

I want to be able to analyse the turbidity of water in Fallout 7.

Jesus Christ · Post by **Jesus Christ** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:52 pm

PiP wrote:which one

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Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:29 pm

I would be exuberant if they included.... hmm.

Evil and Good system obviously, but not to the (prolly get flamed for this) politically incorrect-ness of the prior games. Like the ability to slave and, well etc...

I'm all for the same level of gore however, if not more.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:47 pm

Icabod wrote:I would be exuberant if they included.... hmm.

Evil and Good system obviously, but not to the (prolly get flamed for this) politically incorrect-ness of the prior games. Like the ability to slave and, well etc...

I'm all for the same level of gore however, if not more.

You will get flamed because that was precisely what made those games great. Sorry if something offends your sensibilities, instead of trying to broaden your horizons you'd rather have something dumbed down and more tepid?

Un-cool.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:56 pm

Icabod wrote:I would be exuberant if they included.... hmm.

Evil and Good system obviously, but not to the (prolly get flamed for this) politically incorrect-ness of the prior games. Like the ability to slave and, well etc...

I'm all for the same level of gore however, if not more.

yes, we should follow the bioware model good and evil where telling people to handle their own god damned debts instead of doling out the dubloons like welfare checks to the poor is TEH ULTIMATE EVIL!

God, I'll really feel diabolical after I tell some poor toothless farmer that I am not going to risk my life and limb to fetch his stupid little revolver from an entire camp of raiders.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:20 pm

Icabod wrote: not to the politically incorrect-ness of the prior games

you'll swing for this, flower!

Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:30 am

Can I count the ways...

Fuck you, and you and you... one for every demon spawn I made.

Also, I'm not talking about castrating the evil path, I just said slavery and maybe "youth-a-cide"...

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:49 am

You want to cut child killing?

Seriously? Because the world would be very realistic and gritty if all children were conveniently off-camera.

And it would be equally realistic if there were some sort of mysterious force that prevented you from hurting children exclusively.

I don't know, you don't think it's good enough for you to choose not to kill children? Or become a slaver? Do you not trust yourself?

You are afraid you cannot help but become a slaver or a childkiller and that makes you feel dirty - so you need the developers to hold your hand and make the hard choice for you?

Blargh · Post by **Blargh** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:13 am

Your rhetoric is wasted through one inalienable truth :

This is Icabod, fragile, neurotic Icabod.

Icabod, ethical eunuch of imposition wrote:just

Oho, you make me smile and cringe.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:50 am

Icabod wrote:Also, I'm not talking about castrating the evil path, I just said slavery and maybe "youth-a-cide"...

So you're saying slavery and childkilling is a part of "the evil path"? Not like, y'know, completely destroying the last big realm of pre-war technology with a nuke, or murdering a bunch of mutants who thought they were doing humanity a service?

Killing a child in the post apocalyptic wasteland is akin to giving money to charity, kikeboy. And you'd rather see tribals forming gangs and cults, attacking merchants and travellers, than as a controlled work force with the power to make the wasteland more inhabitable? The only "evil path" I see presented here, is you petitioning for removal of core Fallout material. Everything else is relative.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:48 am

You guys need some lube or are you allright without?

Frater Perdurabo · Post by **Frater Perdurabo** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:05 am

I demand child killing. Honestly, I don't see many reasonable arguements against it. If you can kill adults, why shouldn't you be able to kill children? Is it because you're allowed to kill adults and not children? Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? Computer games (include console in the case of FO3) need to keep a fine line between realism and fun (i.e. you can take more than 1 bullet without dieing). There wouldn't be a lot of either if killable children weren't included.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:15 am

he wanted to cut out SLAVERY, not child killing (atl east thus much he admitted) you freaking fruits!
And this is perhaps even more idiotic.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:35 am

Slavery?

Post apocalyptic societies without slavery?

Dude... wake up!

Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:13 pm

Dreadnought wrote:Slavery?

Post apocalyptic societies without slavery?

Dude... wake up!

OK, point taken.

But even so, I think of what the new engine we may face could hold in store. The 'age' diffrence in NPCs may be a linear thing, think about a gradient in age diffrences. This, opposed to the simple fully grown human placeholder, vs. the seperate unisex model for kiddies in the previous games. That's what was most disturbing to me.

I just don't want to go all skywalker on little kiddies. I don't think Bethesda's going to make me.

When I think of it that way, I'm safe knowing the devs would have more control over the... well... linearity of the game.

WHAT HAVE I BECOME!?!?!?!?!

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:19 pm

Character models still have to be hand-made though, unless there is some sort of monstrous procedural rendering that will require quad-core 64 bit processors with 32gb of ram? Maybe I am exaggerating.

I don't see a problem with unisex children, if you want to get picky, isn't that less disturbing than having sexed children? It would open up an entire pedophilia aspect that I'm sure you could do without?

Icabod · Post by **Icabod** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:30 pm

SuperH wrote:Character models still have to be hand-made though, unless there is some sort of monstrous procedural rendering that will require quad-core 64 bit processors with 32gb of ram? Maybe I am exaggerating.

Perhaps. I'm no dev.

SuperH wrote:I don't see a problem with unisex children, if you want to get picky, isn't that less disturbing than having sexed children? It would open up an entire pedophilia aspect that I'm sure you could do without?

No, what i said was "This, opposed to the simple fully grown human placeholder, vs. the seperate unisex model for kiddies in the previous games.", i'm talking about the obvious seperation of fully grown versus kiddie.

Sounds diffrent when you take away one word doesn't it?

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:55 pm

Dead cats... children... what's next? Someone here likes getting assfucked by Deathclaws maybe?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:12 pm

I think this guy does.