Why I Think Bethesda Won't Botch FO3(Pessimists Turn Back)

infirmaryblues · Post by **infirmaryblues** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:38 am

I've constructed this hypothesis with a sprinkle of optimism, here it is-

Oblivion is an FPS because TES is Bethesda's baby. Really, they can do whatever the hell they want with this IP, because it's wholly theirs.

FOBOS was crap because FO belonged(

) to Interplay. They were desperate for money, so then drew straws on which of their better franchises would get the proverbial, commercial rape. FO lost. Probably not exactly how it played out, but Interplay had the power in that situation.

Now Bethesda worked to get the Fallout license, knowing ahead of time the precedent that the name has in RPG lore. Bethesda, as a developer, can be seen as a sort of RPG maker, excluding Oblivion. With this in mind, I believe they are sufficiently aware of what FO3 SHOULD be. The matter is, will they make the game this way?

I believe they made Oblivion what it is because something needed to fight the tide of Japanese shit RPGs on consoles(I don't care if you like them, I think they're totally fake, emo shit). I hope it opened the eyes of those whose only exposure to RPGs were the Final Fantasy Fuck games. I got one of those games and was appalled that they are called RPGs; they're only bland, overdrawn adventure games with high production values. I really think I'd rather watch paint dry or the world turn. But I don't need to tell you guys this.

One thing Fallout is known for is showing that a damn good RPG can be financially successfully. Emil seems like someone with a good head, given what I've seen here and his Looking Glass work. Following Oblivion, Bethesda is probably quite financially secure and in a position to take a risk. Seeing this, I believe FO3 will take on that challenge of being great AND commercially viable. I believe, and very much want, it to be a game that will act as a catalyst for (good)change.

BTW, in case you think that FO3 MIGHT be 2D sprites-

http://www.bethsoft.com/links/job_01310 ... artst.html

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:54 am

I am skipping on that one. Gogogo

DaC-Sniper · Post by **DaC-Sniper** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:59 pm

:asshat infirmaryblues:

he needs an avatar anyway.

Cimmerian Nights · Post by **Cimmerian Nights** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:02 pm

infirmaryblues wrote:Bethesda, as a developer, can be seen as a sort of RPG maker,

Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:04 pm

A british cook can't improvise himself a french cook when he wants to.

Bethesda will probably do Fallout 3 in the same vein of games as TES ones.

infirmaryblues · Post by **infirmaryblues** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Hey I didn't say a *good* RPG developer, but I did include that Emil is on the project and offers some hope. Just trying to point out what potential is there.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:25 pm

I can't wait to make a Fallout 3 clan on XBLive.

infirmaryblues · Post by **infirmaryblues** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:38 pm

Yeah yeah yeah, if that happens I'll run my face into a wall. I don't want an Oblivion Fallout as much as you guys. Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:44 pm

infirmaryblues wrote:Yeah yeah yeah, if that happens I'll run my face into a wall. I don't want an Oblivion Fallout as much as you guys. Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?

of course there's the possibility and we improve those possibilities by keeping our expectations low, you grok?

infirmaryblues · Post by **infirmaryblues** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:48 pm

Ahh.....sheer wit. Surprising to find gamers for once with a brain. Kids these days....

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:01 pm

I just get lucky on occasion.

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:08 pm

infirmaryblues wrote:Isn't it possible that the game will be good though, at all?

No.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:09 pm

Cimmerian Nights wrote: Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.

yea, and how many 'real' RPGs you have in this case?

Killzig wrote:I can't wait to make a Fallout 3 clan on XBLive.

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:30 pm

PiP wrote:
Cimmerian Nights wrote: Bethesda is to RPGs what Fanta Grape is to wine.
yea, and how many 'real' RPGs you have in this case?

We already settled for 4. Where have you been when all this 'What makes cRPG' horseshit hit the turbofan?

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:32 pm

He was probably playing Oblivion at the time.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 am

1. my question was rhetorical, silly
2. I've never played Oblimbion, as opposed to you

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:08 pm

You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:20 pm

how Kung Fu Tse

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:38 pm

St. Toxic wrote:You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.

of course, so I left criticising Oblivion to you and others who played it. Just don't go 'you play that stupid oblivion boy' on me

it's all really not too serious

Koki · Post by **Koki** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:29 pm

St. Toxic wrote:You have to know your enemy if you want to put up a fight.

That will be quoted in the next Total War game.

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