Interplay Attempts to Pimp DAC

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:56 pm

TinyTeeth wrote:Thread needs more praise for Hitler.

alright then

Frohe Weihnachten

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:57 pm

About UO holding a substantial share of the audience, including more sales figures:
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Subscriber numbers peaked at around 250,000 in July of 2003, and to date sit around 135,000 subscribers (approximately 70,000 of which are Japanese). Ultima Online holds a 1.1% market share of massively multiplayer online game subscriptions.

You failed to note that they are mostly Japanese, one of the few games many can still play with outdated versions of Windows, and that the audience is not interested in a name-rape for long, especially after the original designers (Origin) are no longer around. Mostly, it's Japanese and White Trash Ninjas, the type of idiot that doesn't notice or care, and who apparently can't understand simple design concepts.

What you leave out in this is that the game is 9 years old with graphics as outdated as fallout 1 was. And that they menaged to make uo real big at the time when nobody owned a broadband conection.

And if ultima sold millions in 1990 as you claimed than it must have been reworked nes version cause in 1990 millions of people did not own pcs.

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:06 am

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you are wrong, there were millions of computers in circulation. I don't think any ultima sold that much but maybe 7 did?

Haris · Post by **Haris** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:15 am

I can buy those figure for games being sold for nes and snes in 90s. But pc games no chance.

Rosh · Post by **Rosh** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:48 am

Haris wrote: What you leave out in this is that the game is 9 years old with graphics as outdated as fallout 1 was.

And this has relevance to something? I've entertained your UO bullshit for a bit, but the only thing it really proves is that game concepts are often horribly raped when changed from single-player to a MMOG environment. Your beloved article proved that at length, shitstain. It even said so almost verbatim, if you'd care to read it fully.

And that they menaged to make uo real big at the time when nobody owned a broadband conection.

You didn't NEED a broadband connection then, for even FPS games. Really, child, the levels you try to defend your weak-ass arguments becomes even more laughable. About the only thing you've managed to do is prove that UO did sell and is still around, though to an audience that really doesn't matter. The design, setting, and pretty much the entirety of UO doesn't have shit to do with Ultima except in name, it's been proven on Usenet on both the UO newsgroup as well as the UDIC newsgroup. EA hasn't been consistent in the butchering of the backstory for years. And if anyone knows anything about Ultima, it would be the UDIC.

And yet you use that as validation for FOOL.

Kid, not even Lord Dick is as far out of touch with reality as you are.

And if ultima sold millions in 1990 as you claimed than it must have been reworked nes version cause in 1990 millions of people did not own pcs.

I can buy those figure for games being sold for nes and snes in 90s. But pc games no chance.

Child, what have I said about pulling bullshit from your ass? In 1990, millions of people DID have computers, and here's a clue (albeit flawed, since that is worldwide, and the US had a far higher saturation than the worldwide average - I'm just going by a safety figure on this...if I were to use American percentages, it would be even larger than 6.25 MIL). Cross it with this graph. With any competence at math, you'd arrive at a figure of around ~6.25 million PC users (around 125 million worldwide using a flat 5 BIL). Before the "world wide web" boomed in 95-97, and before Windows in general, so that means this is the pre-idiot time of gaming. ~6.25 million, and not using their PC to surf for porn, so that means it probably had some other use, like gaming. ~6.25 million in the US alone.

I'll admit that the figures for Wizardry and Ultima sales are worldwide, but then again, so was the "impressive" 1 million sales mark for UO.

Ultima had an audience comparable and much larger than Wizardry, worldwide, and is still going strong (although not really on the misbegotten rape of UO, Ultima fans really HATE that game, for many good reasons). Wizardry Gold/7 had 5 MIL in sales cited on the cover, enough sales from 1992 to warrant a re-make and re-tooling for Windows in 1996, and this one wasn't released for the consoles. So a single game has sold better than a MMOG, and even games pre-MMOG rape sold better than the MMOG. UO is now a sad playground for the Japanese who couldn't afford Lineage or weren't going to leave UO for whatever reason. As it has been for years as EA constantly rapes the setting so morons like you can enjoy shitty MMOG mechanics in lieu of gameplay.

So how does that have anything to do with Ultima, or how Fallout Online would have anything to do with Fallout? Exactly, it only proves your idiocy in defending that FAILURE. UO killed the series long before UIX showed up, and UIX was LB's token ending to wrapping up the series.

To put it simply, in deference to you:

Shut the fuck up, newb.

Jesus: Hmmm, good point. Maybe we just pretend for a moment and declare mistaken Jewnicity? Yeah, nothing about him could be mistaken for Jewish. Okay, I've got it. Classify him under "untermenschen" and gas him anyways.

Thor: Raver Hitler...that's a new one on me.

Fa11lloutfan_15 · Post by **Fa11lloutfan_15** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:51 am

HEIL HITLER <img src="http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/image ... s/rofl.gif" height="30" width="90">

Brother None · Post by **Brother None** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:10 am

S4ur0n27 wrote:Why don't you just unban him from NMA?

Do you mean Rosh or Haris?

Rosh wrote:Unfortunately for this example, I tend to hire people with a clue, who are able to spot the good points and flaws of games without personal bias, able to articulate their reasons coherently as well as understand simple concepts.

You know I was just kidding, ya big lug.

Frissy wrote:I'm not paranoid (or perhaps I am, but I'm sure those midgets are close...), but I've seen this "disagreedin" happening more and more, and with many people. It's also done by the same people who always do it, and always live under the full-enjoyment of "staff". Just because certain people are moderators or just plain simple god's doesn't mean they are all-knowing-fallout-gurus. Just because you've been there the forever doesn't mean you're right (all the time). In NMA it doesn't really matter if you know more, or less. The results have become the same. The idea of NMA, which again is ruled by a few.

I'm sorry? Ruled? Were you banned? Abused? Special rank? Posts edited? Molested? None of those things happened, neither Ratty nor Sander, as far as I can recall, pressured you with their awesome "NMA staff" positions. So what's the problem? You disagreed with them, you argued, everyones' posts ended up in the vats when it became clear the thread was going nowhere and...then you left because you're not allowed to disagree? whoa, where did that come from?

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:27 am

Why is this thread still going? The only people arguing are from NMA, maybe take it back to home base hombritos?

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:29 am

Kharn wrote:I'm sorry? Ruled? Were you banned? Abused? Special rank? Posts edited? Molested? None of those things happened, neither Ratty nor Sander, as far as I can recall, pressured you with their awesome "NMA staff" positions. So what's the problem? You disagreed with them, you argued, everyones' posts ended up in the vats when it became clear the thread was going nowhere and...then you left because you're not allowed to disagree? whoa, where did that come from?

Ruled/pressured by "staff" position: Yes, as you said. All the posts ended in the vats. A bit like Hitler and the Jews. "I disagree!" "SHOWER!!"

Banned: No, but I did get some heat from opressors, that don't think like that, or you will get banned. Best part was when they said: "You're lucky he isn't here!" OOhh... I imagined something like Conan O'Brien doing his girlie/star trek act.

Special Rank: Never got one...bitches

Post edited: Yup.

Molested: I'm haunted by Alec's pictures of women...

Sorry, this has NOTHING to do with this thread. If you think I left the flock without any just, well Boo-hoo. I'm so emotional when you find time to seek out the stray ones and harrash them on other boards.

Brother None · Post by **Brother None** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:11 pm

SuperH wrote:Why is this thread still going? The only people arguing are from NMA, maybe take it back to home base hombritos?

Dude. I'm the only NMAer posting here. Frissy left NMA, Rosh and haris are banned from the place.

So pure DaC, man.

Aneurysm · Post by **Aneurysm** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:39 pm

Ah the irony both Rosh and Haris banned

Also

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:39 pm

MR Snake · Post by **MR Snake** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:12 pm

Rash you suck... stop with the bloody quoting and this dumb argument as if it even matters who wins the argument.

And I cannot believe Rash got banned... its like..Odin finally realised what a butthead Rash is.

And to sum this up in the great words of St.Toxic: lol:drunk:

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:41 pm

Still bitter, MR Snake?

MR Snake · Post by **MR Snake** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:16 pm

Always

Cthulhugoat · Post by **Cthulhugoat** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:03 pm

Where is the Adolf smiley?

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:23 pm

We could use Herve's instead?

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:50 pm

Kharn wrote:Rosh and haris are banned from the place.

Can we ban them from here too?

Nicolai · Post by **Nicolai** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:16 pm

Rosh is pretty alright, but Haris has to go. Maybe we should exile him to The Radiated Society.

SuperH · Post by **SuperH** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:41 pm

I never liked Rosh since the great akimbo minigun debate of '02.