StarCraft 2 (almost) announced.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:53 pm

Find an old 15" crt and do a side by side comparison. I tried this with a number of old games including Fallout, Starcraft, Civ 1 and 2, Darksun 1: Shattered Lands, Duke Nukem 3D, Doom 1 and 2 (without source ports), and the difference is remarkable. These games were designed for older monitors and thus look cleaner and sharper. Unfortunately I don't have the patience to keep moving giant CRT monitors around my desk. Especially since all those games excluding Starcraft have some sort of workaround.

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:02 am

Dreadnought wrote:I could imagine they stole more ideas from Warhammer 40k.

i never played the warhammer rts, what did it feature that you think theyd try to copy? the most innovative rts ive seen recently was company of heroes, which i loved, but its gameplay doesnt suit starcraft. i cant really think of many new features that would fit well into the starcraft style of gameplay. it was loads of fun, but admittedly it was very, very basic

Dreadnought wrote:IMO the protoss/zerg hybrid would be too obvious. They'll rock up with... uh... something stupid.

what does that even mean?

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:19 am

The simplicity of it was it's greatest asset. You didn't have to crunch forty digit math figures to figure out what unit was what. You mass lings and rush spawns. Shout korean racial slurs as a torrential downpour of "CARRIER HAS ARRIVED"'s drenches you in audio bliss.

And it should be the protoss/zerg hybrid because that's the only other known race in the plot unless they pull one of two stupid typical things. LOL NEW RACE JUST DISCOVERED ON A PLANET THAT WE NEVER SAW BEFORE or the other option is ROFL ANCIENT RACE LONG THOUGHT EXTINCT HAS NOW COME BACK TO HAUNT US LOLZ.

Regardless, I will play it. And Max is a graphics whore. He is just too hip to admit it. Bring back the OG DAC management krew=(

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:44 am

Hehe.

Anyway, the new race is rumored to be tied to Kerrigan somehow. She was the Ghost human/zerg character that took control of her own Zerg species at the end of Brood War.
I dunno, it's all bullshit until we see something for real. We heard similar rumors prior to last year's Blizzcon. And if even they do announce SC2 we won't play it until 2010.

We're more likely to see a re-announced Starcraft Ghost for the 360/PS3 or even better ANOTHER WoW expansion pack.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:44 am

johnnygothisgun wrote:
Dreadnought wrote:I could imagine they stole more ideas from Warhammer 40k.
i never played the warhammer rts

He ment from the table top game.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:58 am

Mad Max RW wrote:We're more likely to see a re-announced Starcraft Ghost for the 360/PS3 or even better ANOTHER WoW expansion pack.

Indeed, that is highly probable.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:37 am

If they do make starcraft 2 I hope they have the
balls to make most of the gameplay close to, or
identical to numero uno. No rotating camera!

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:03 am

Wolfman Walt wrote:
johnnygothisgun wrote:
Dreadnought wrote:I could imagine they stole more ideas from Warhammer 40k.
i never played the warhammer rts
He ment from the table top game.

what feature would they possibly take from a table top game?

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:50 am

Space Marines, Zerg, to a degree Protoss...

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:58 am

johnnygothisgun wrote:
Dreadnought wrote:I could imagine they stole more ideas from Warhammer 40k.
i never played the warhammer rts, what did it feature that you think theyd try to copy? the most innovative rts ive seen recently was company of heroes, which i loved, but its gameplay doesnt suit starcraft. i cant really think of many new features that would fit well into the starcraft style of gameplay. it was loads of fun, but admittedly it was very, very basic

Dreadnought wrote:IMO the protoss/zerg hybrid would be too obvious. They'll rock up with... uh... something stupid.
what does that even mean?

1. StarCraft is a total Warhammer 40.000 ripoff. And I'm not talking about the RTS (Dawn of War).
I mean the whole concept, the idea of space marines, basicly EVERYTHING is stolen.

Edit: Of course it looks AS IF it would be their own shit.

2. C&C introduced a new 'species' and afaik most people say it sucks. So, I think the idea of too much INOOVAYSHUN and KNEW PLAYABLE SPEECEES is made of fail.

Edit: Coz, u kno, they need 2 imprezz ppl with shit never seen before! ZOMFG! :bethesda:

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:09 am

What those two guys said. Starcraft ripped off Warhammer 40k big time. I guess it was Blizzards way of getting back at Gamesworkshop for bailing out on Warcraft (Which was originally Fantasy warhammer).

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:19 am

I'm over it. StarCraft was fucking awesome.

Ghost was going to be shit though.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:20 am

Here's for hoping it never comes out.

Edit: It's not like I mind Starcraft being derivative of 40k, 40k itself being a combination of many things. I think the only thing that bothers me is when people who see 40k go "HEY, THAT RIPPED OFF OF STARCRAFT, OMG!!!"

Atrokkus · Post by **Atrokkus** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:40 am

Warcraft 3 isn't easy to broadcast and Starcraft is? What does it even mean?

Because Warcraft3 is very slow-paced and REALLY bad for broadcasting and turnin the audience on and keepin them suspended. Warcraft3 had much less action in it -- less units, armies centered on heroes.. losing huge army almost always means defeat, whiel in starcraft losing tons of units is a norm and does not make you any weaker unless you're defending or dont have the means of production and map control. That is why Warcraft3 will never become a good e-sport discipline in Korea -- they would have to hire pole-dancers to entertain the crowd because there's just so little action going on in the game.

They better make a dota map for it.

GOd no, save SC2 from this disease.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:32 pm

Mad Max RW wrote:Try it on a 21" monitor. Both Starcraft and Fallout you can count the pixels. My solution is just hitting the monitor's zoom out setting 30-40 times.

On a wide screen Starcraft is hideous almost to the point of being unplayable.

I've got a 22" wide and let me tell you, it is borderline unplayable.
It looks like tactical sumo wrestling.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:53 pm

Holy fuck

Not a real screenshot, still exciting.

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:01 pm

Isn't that from the war3 total conversion thingo? (Can't find the link to the guys that are making it yet)

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:19 pm

No way is that from the Warcraft 3 SC remake. I saw a video of it and it looked horrible, that pic looks like something completely different.

Max, is that a fan made pic or what? Give use the scoop.

Atrokkus · Post by **Atrokkus** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:29 pm

No way is that from the Warcraft 3 SC remake. I saw a video of it and it looked horrible, that pic looks like something completely different.

You're probably mixing it up with that stupid russian parody project video that has been broadcasted on youtube. That video does not pertain to Warcraft3->SC total conversion, no.
This screenie is pretty fucked up. Pathetic, really. I really hope Blizzard does better than this.

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:56 pm

[url]http://www.wc3campaigns.net/revolution/index.php[/url

Thats the total conversion mod, I don't think it really looks that bad.