Militainment

Mechanurgist · Post by **Mechanurgist** » Tue May 29, 2007 1:25 am

NATIK wrote:I am a devout believer

Yup, 'cause you'd have to be a religious fanatic to still think that communism works, even in theory.

"I'd like to live in Theory. Everything seems to work there."

Read some von Mises, Hayek and Friedman, kid. Then read the Black Book of Communism. You're not even halfway to individualized adulthood yet.

NATIK · Post by **NATIK** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:33 am

Mechanurgist wrote:
NATIK wrote:I am a devout believer
Yup, 'cause you'd have to be a religious fanatic to still think that communism works, even in theory.

"I'd like to live in Theory. Everything seems to work there."

Read some von Mises, Hayek and Friedman, kid. Then read the Black Book of Communism. You're not even halfway to individualized adulthood yet.

If you took the rest of that sentence with it, you would read SOCIALISM. It is NOT the same as communism, it is a middle thing and IMO is the best solution there has been thought up yet. If you were to read my post in full instead of just focussing on the fact that I havent fallen for the stupid idea that communism is evil (only reason it is considered as such is the american government back in the 50ties being paranoid, its a fact).

Believing that socialism is the best does not mean I think communism is the optimal solution just that it isnt inherently evil, I dont care what books by paranoid morons you tell me to read, communist states does NOT have to be dictatorships, it is merely what has been the case so far.

Only thing I said was that it was a good idea, not that it worked, if you reread my posts I actually said that it wouldnt work, atleast not in our world as it is now.

Defending your views by citing books is a great way to show your "individualized adulthood" come back with fully thought out arguments that you havent plucked directly from books and I might consider it worth listening to.

Fa11lloutfan_15 · Post by **Fa11lloutfan_15** » Tue May 29, 2007 7:51 am

Most of all communism is for plebeians. The only ones who would actually want a society where all struggle has been removed from life are welfare recipients. 100 dollars on that NATIK is either stupid or unemployed.

NATIK · Post by **NATIK** » Tue May 29, 2007 8:35 am

Fa11lloutfan_15 wrote:Most of all communism is for plebeians. The only ones who would actually want a society where all struggle has been removed from life are welfare recipients. 100 dollars on that NATIK is either stupid or unemployed.

FFS READ MY POSTS, I dont want communism, I actually state that several times, I just try to tell you that communism isnt inherently evil as you like to make it out to be. It is really quite simple, yet you guys seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills.

Fa11lloutfan_15 · Post by **Fa11lloutfan_15** » Tue May 29, 2007 10:31 am

Wanting socialism is almost even worse as it's naive, whereas being a communist only means you're a working-class twit who should be shot if he can't keep his mouth shut by himself. Are you naive, Kyle?

Poexxx · Post by **Poexxx** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:15 pm

Both communism and socialism are founded on the weakest aspects of human nature; to expect humanity and concern for his fellow man to be the cement that binds stones built of self sacrifice and selflessness makes for a straw house.

You may not believe that all people are selfish and may not like it when people refer to other humans as evil, however your own personal feelings on it do not change the reality of the situation. Look at the history of man as a race with your eyes wide open and accept it. We are a son of a bitch.

It is also weak to excuse the failings of communism on poor implementation or the actions of a few thugs and despots, as thou communism was the only form of government to have its tyrants?

Also, why on earth would you trust your safety to any government or corporation? Maybe it is the American in me but there is something inherently wrong in the faith that someone other than myself would know what is best for my safety and wellbeing, or be benign enough to put my needs first.

Anyone who says they are from the government, and they are here to help you is lying.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:17 pm

The uncompetitive nature of communism and the competitive nature of humanity doesn't match.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Tue May 29, 2007 5:20 pm

Oh, the humanity

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Tue May 29, 2007 9:02 pm

unmutual! unmutual!

TelemachusSneezed · Post by **TelemachusSneezed** » Tue May 29, 2007 9:22 pm

Superhaze wrote:Right, left, socialist or capitalist, all that matters is pussy.

Truth!

Mechanurgist · Post by **Mechanurgist** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:36 am

NATIK wrote:[communist states does NOT have to be dictatorships, it is merely what has been the case so far.

Gee, you're so right. It's only a 100% failure rate, 200 times out of 200. I'm sure it'll be a worker's paradise any...day...now.

I guess I'll go back to reading my dumb books now and leave the running of the world to college kids like you.

TelemachusSneezed · Post by **TelemachusSneezed** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:51 am

Shit man, just let NATIK run things for a while. Make him an admin for instance; we'll find out real soon how well Communism works.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:58 am

At least i would finally get me an ak. aaahh yeah!

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:30 pm

TelemachusSneezed wrote:Shit man, just let NATIK run things for a while. Make him an admin for instance; we'll find out real soon how well Communism works.

Ban everyone and claim nothing happened?

Nicolai was the Rockefeller of forum admins.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:30 pm

More like Thatcher

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:48 pm

:iron lung:

vx trauma · Post by **vx trauma** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:26 pm

awww. the bleeding heart of a pink boy. wonderful.