I Am Legend Trailer

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:53 am

The last man on earth is a flower.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:30 am

You have destroyed the awesomeness of Mechanurgist's avatar forever. Good job, motherfucker.

DaC-Sniper · Post by **DaC-Sniper** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:35 am

yullk. yulk. he like totally thought he is funny with this avatar. ban please.

Mandalorian FaLLouT GoD · Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:20 pm

I gotta admit, I didn't realize Robert Neville was a black guy.

Whoops, wait a minute, fuck you hollywood.

Publicity for good books is one thing, but ruining and proceeding to piss on classic novels is not something I like to see.

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:39 pm

The Gaijin wrote:
Mr. Teatime wrote:As for Stephen King, I really like him, haven't got around to reading The Stand yet, but am about to start on Cell, which is another of his post apoc novels (albiet written a lot later).
First off: fuck Stephen King. Fuck him very much. Fuck his coked up brain, his rambling, and his need to ruin all the great story ideas he has by NOT SHUTTING UP. I mean aside from his short stories, The Shining, and the first Dark Tower novel, without fail he will proceed to butcher any story he comes in contact with. Including The Stand. The Stand was incredibly awesome, until he decided to interject his MAGIC NEGRO COMPLEX* thereby turning a cool post apoc story into some asinine good-against-evil drivel. And don't even get me started on how badly he ruined It.

*The MAGIC NEGRO COMPLEX means that, in Stephen King's world, all black people are one or more of the following: Uneducated, posessed of magic powers, or going to die.

First off, to MFG, I don't have a problem with Robert Neville being black. The book was written way back in the 50s or 60s, a black protaganist would have been a big plot point or symbolic of something. Now, well, the casting probably does have some politics behind it, but it's really not an issue. The issue is making it into some dumb action flick, which it looks like it's headed towards, whenever Hollywood 'updates' a classic by putting it in modern times and all that. So, yeah. But we've still got the book.

Now to the gaijin and Stephen King. I think King is a pretty good writer, but out of all his books, yeah, black is pretty rare. On the other hand, King usually writes pretty closely to his real life - not in the stuff that happens, but the characters, generally, appear to be based on him. Roland in the dark tower - blue eyed clint eastwood/john wayne type, which seems to be King fantasising about himself starring in all those westerns.
And the King book I'm reading now, Cell, again, the main character is a Red Sox fan - like King - and you'll notice a lot of his work is about, well, some writer or other.

Nothing wrong with that really, and I maintain he writes pretty damned well. I can't generalise too much because I haven't read THAT much of his, but maybe that's why black is few and far between.

And The Dark Tower series, I thought, was fantastic. Rather improvised and haphazard in its writing, it's obvious King himself didn't know what it was about until he'd finished it all, which is part of its appeal (but I like improvising as a style for all sorts, music, writing, etc). And the plot device he uses towards the end, of the characters coming out into the real world and meeting, well, King himself, is a bit hashed together, but for a book series that is about something that's behind all creation and holds the world together, it works pretty well, as King does 'hold the world together' for these characters. I also love the way he makes it so it underpins all his other work. Very interesting idea, especially when you're reading his other stuff after having read the dark tower.

So, yeah, leave off Stephen King (having said that, I can't read too much of him in one go).

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:11 pm

If you're a Stephen King fan, you have to read THe MIST. It's like a 100 page novella. It's in the beginning of THE NIGHT SHIFT I believe. I have read alot of Stephen King and it's my favorite story. It's kinda like a very fucked up Twilight Zone episode. I'm pretty sure it's also being made into a movie with the Shawshank Redemption director directing.

Mechanurgist · Post by **Mechanurgist** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:15 am

That's a three-hanky defense of Mr. King's writing. Now which ones did he ghost-write again?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:26 am

The Running Man.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:18 am

DaC-Sniper wrote:yullk. yulk. he like totally thought he is funny with this avatar. ban please.

Cimmerian Nights · Post by **Cimmerian Nights** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:24 am

Dogmeatlives wrote:It's in the beginning of THE NIGHT SHIFT I believe.

Maybe it's just because I was in Jr. High at the time, but his short story books were the best, until I read Clive Barker's Books of Blood.

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:45 am

I still hold King's short stories in very high regard. They all reminded me of a twilight zone episode on acid. I have not read any in a few years but the stories have stuck with me. I have not read any clive barker. I'll have to torrent Books of Blood.

jetbaby · Post by **jetbaby** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:50 pm

My quicktime isn't leet enough to play it.

Mechanurgist · Post by **Mechanurgist** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:37 pm

God, why didn't they go with Plan A instead:

I Am Legend, starring Kurt Russell, with a kickass script circa 1983.

http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/legend.txt

Code: Select all

A VIDEO IMAGE FLICKERS TO LIFE.  A ruggedly handsome man with dark, haunted 
eyes.  Eyes that have seen hell.

				NEVILLE
		My name is Robert Neville.  Today is October 17th,
		the year 2002.  I was born in 1960, on this very day,
		so that makes today my birthday.  &#40;remembering&#41;
		Every year for my birthday, my wife Ellen would throw
		me a party.  A kid's party.  Cake, ice cream, funny hats,
		"Pin the Tail on the Donkey".  One year she rented a pony.
		It didn't matter that we were grown-ups and this was all
		kind of silly to the neighbors.  She just did things like 
that.
		She brought such joy into everything she did, everything
		she touched... &#40;too nostalgic&#41;  I am forty-two today.
		I feel fine.  I feel fit.  My mental state is... pretty good.
		&#40;withdraws&#41;  Let's start over.  &#40;focuses&#41;
		My name is Robert Neville.  I was born forty-two years
		ago in Des Moines, Iowa.  I had a wife Ellen and a daughter
		Grace.  My father's name was Bill and my mother's 
		Charlotte.  They were farm people.
		I hope...  Someday...  When someone finds these tapes...
		You will know who I was.  What I was about.
		What I tried to do.  What I try to do. &#40;withdraws&#41;
		I think I killed six last night.

THE VIDEO IMAGE TURNS TO STATIC.

The Gaijin · Post by **The Gaijin** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:08 am

Mr. Teatime wrote:Now to the gaijin and Stephen King. I think King is a pretty good writer, but out of all his books, yeah, black is pretty rare.

You misunderstood me. It's not the fact that he doesn't put many black people into his books--it is the fact that, without fail, they are uneducated, magical, dead, or all of the above. It's condescending having to watch him try and hamfistedly careen through "THE BLACK EXPERIENCE".

Nothing wrong with that really, and I maintain he writes pretty damned well. I can't generalise too much because I haven't read THAT much of his, but maybe that's why black is few and far between.

He does write well--for awhile, at least. And then he keeps writing. And he keeps writing. And then before you know it BUUUUUUH CHUDTURTLEVOMITTEDUNIVERSECHILDGANGBANGNUT. Which is why I still maintain that the best books he's ever written were his short stories...and The Shining. The Shining still holds up.

And The Dark Tower series, I thought, was fantastic.

The first novel is still one of my favorite books. But, again, he ruined it by being him. He decided to interject a load of horseshit into what was otherwise shaping up to be an impressive premise. Instead of going with his Man with No Name feel stuck in the middle of the wasteland, he decided to commit literary onanism by basically running off a list of random things he thinks are cool/he wrote. It's nonsensical drivel.

So, yeah, leave off Stephen King (having said that, I can't read too much of him in one go).

I've read at least a dozen of his books in the span of one year. Because I keep my enemies closer.

P.S. MFG is flying through the grips of NEEEEERD FUCKING RAGE because he can't handle the last man on earth not being of pure aryan blood.

We win.

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:08 am

Mechanurgist wrote:God, why didn't they go with Plan A instead:

I Am Legend, starring Kurt Russell, with a kickass script circa 1983.

http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/legend.txt

Code: Select all

A VIDEO IMAGE FLICKERS TO LIFE.  A ruggedly handsome man with dark, haunted 
eyes.  Eyes that have seen hell.

				NEVILLE
		My name is Robert Neville.  Today is October 17th,
		the year 2002.  I was born in 1960, on this very day,
		so that makes today my birthday.  &#40;remembering&#41;
		Every year for my birthday, my wife Ellen would throw
		me a party.  A kid's party.  Cake, ice cream, funny hats,
		"Pin the Tail on the Donkey".  One year she rented a pony.
		It didn't matter that we were grown-ups and this was all
		kind of silly to the neighbors.  She just did things like 
that.
		She brought such joy into everything she did, everything
		she touched... &#40;too nostalgic&#41;  I am forty-two today.
		I feel fine.  I feel fit.  My mental state is... pretty good.
		&#40;withdraws&#41;  Let's start over.  &#40;focuses&#41;
		My name is Robert Neville.  I was born forty-two years
		ago in Des Moines, Iowa.  I had a wife Ellen and a daughter
		Grace.  My father's name was Bill and my mother's 
		Charlotte.  They were farm people.
		I hope...  Someday...  When someone finds these tapes...
		You will know who I was.  What I was about.
		What I tried to do.  What I try to do. &#40;withdraws&#41;
		I think I killed six last night.

THE VIDEO IMAGE TURNS TO STATIC.

I have a feeling that would have been a sick-ass movie. Too bad.

Cthulhugoat · Post by **Cthulhugoat** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:04 am

Oh crap...

Kurt would have Escape from New York, The Thing and I Am Legend in his sheet. Imagine that.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:28 am

Stephen King has violent religious moodswings, which can plainly be read in his books.

Mismatch · Post by **Mismatch** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:48 am

Toxic

:dance::dance::dance:
I thought you were dead for sure.

St. Toxic · Post by **St. Toxic** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:37 am

Likewise, buddy. Heard from a fellow hobo that you bit the bullet i Laos 1968. :patriot:

Mr. Teatime · Post by **Mr. Teatime** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:32 pm

Ok, explain Susannah in The Dark Tower. She's black, and she's pivotal to the whole series. She's educated, the only one who DOESN'T die, and she doesn't really have any magic powers. Or are we only talking black men?

But, I can see how King's work gets a bit samey. There's no escaping that, he's written about twenty billion books. Which is why I tend to read one of his once every three or so books, breaking it up a bit