Afterfall now in English and concept art!

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:19 am

Because they hate'em.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:01 am

It's funny that Augustus went all "learn your history, punk!" on Vasikka, even though Finland is a smaller country than Poland and we actually managed to stay independent during WW2, facing the same damn odds

Wee, like it matters a shit now if your grand-dad went to war or not, you're still a douchebag!

talesfromthecrypt · Post by **talesfromthecrypt** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:14 am

Kashluk wrote: facing the same damn odds
!

You were invaded almost simultaniously at the same time by 2 of the most powerful military powers of its time? Would be new to me, but maybe its so in finish history books.

And before you mention the winterwar, you didn't really win it. You fought against a Soviet army which, due to stalins purges, was practicly devoid of any intelligence or capable officers and ultimatly just bought the Soviets off by giving them parts of your territory. How :heroic:

Oh, and Poland may have performed not very well in the september campaign, but were still better than france :vichy:

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:55 am

Now that we are bitching about Poland I find it rather stupid that Poland is seeking bigger influence in EU due to them being assfucked in WW2...HELLO! IT WAS IN WW2!!! More political leverage...please. I could understand giving more money to build the infastructure etc, because it got blown to hell, but gaining more influence due to being hammered in ww2...

I must remind myself that when I run as president, I must inform the people the I got bullied in school. That should like give me +30% votes just because I got bullied. MUAHAHA!

Ps. France didn't do so well due to them drinking wine and enjoying life at the same time. So one could say that they we're half-fighting and Polish were doing 100% and were still only slightly better

talesfromthecrypt · Post by **talesfromthecrypt** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:04 am

Yeah, that is indeed stupid.

However, doesnt change the fact that the EU is a undemocratic bureocracy, ruled by lobyists and the only organ elected by the people - the european parliament - has almost no real power.
The EU was good for us due to ca$h, but if with the new european constution the EU can force laws on countries without their agreement (you have to introduce gay marriage you are DIIIIISCRIMINATING those people lulz) I say no.

I'm pretty fine with a europe of 2 speeds, whats the problem of it. All those political correct european politicans who didn't even dare to ask their own public about that whole bullcrap (remember how netherlands and france said NO in the referendum? But its teh evil poles fault the great european constitution will fail) can integrate into a burocratic superstate if thats what they wish, but dont force others to do it aswell.

Works pretty good for me.

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:26 am

Well I'm ok for forcing laws. I mean basically democracy is the worst thing for getting anything done. They are constantly bitching about certain laws being better for the other etc. Well that's true! Hmm..and it was the same even before the EU. Seems like they are forgetting the idea that same laws, regulations etc. won't change the fact that small countries are small countries even still.

Just because people are in the EU doesn't mean that every single country is equal, they are equal in the same proportion. Look at Finland for example. We have like 5.3mil people, that the same amount that some of the countries have in their cities!

Then you get these ww2 whiners. What the hell does that have to do with EU!? With the same ideology half of europe should be donated to the jews. I mean that's just appropiate don't ya think. I mean some dude like killed 6mil of them!

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:26 am

double.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:15 pm

I find it rather stupid that Poland is seeking bigger influence in EU due to them being assfucked in WW2...HELLO! IT WAS IN WW2!!! More political leverage...please

ahmmmm.... what?

Our government from last elections does a lot of stupid things, bu this... is crap.

but gaining more influence due to being hammered in ww2...

there is no such thing in poland. And the only country which tried and suceed with that is Israel (with all respect for them).

I don't know what you are talking about.

Germans and Russians won't play a game set in Poland
And why is that?
Because they hate'em.

OMG people.... WWII was half of century ago ;D Germans doesnt hate us. Russians...ahmmm... theyr government for sure does, but not because of history. We are (i mean Afterfall) cooperateing with Unigine corporation (russian) and I know from them, that AF is interesting for Russian players.

It's funny that Augustus went all "learn your history, punk!"

I'm sorry if my words sounded like that. I didn't mean to be offensive. Like you see with example of 'anti-tank cavaleria' - knowledge about history today is stil full of old propaganda and miths. Year ago I was one of people though that was true.

You were invaded almost simultaniously at the same time by 2 of the most powerful military powers of its time? Would be new to me, but maybe its so in finish history books.

The book I was talking about isn't actually polish, if you want to know. It's authors are american.

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:26 pm

European Union and a common constitution is good stuff by far. The less borders, differences, yada yada there are between the nations, the less wars will be fought and the less suffering will take place, which means more prosperity and better economy, since no one needs to gear up for war against each other. The money that used to go to defence budgets would ideally be replaced to social stuff, like wealthcare, healthcare, education etc. It's all good.

I mean, look at US of A - would it be the only superpower in the world if it wouldn't be a federation, but instead 52 independent nations, waging wars against each other and shit

lulz

Oh, and by the way, the "super Poland part" can be found here: http://www.afterfall.pl/index/en/69

that constituted Central North Poland before the war. On the day the war started, the land was the most urbanized and the best organized there was. The most important industries, the biggest metropolies (including the capital), the most important laboratories, military bases and shelters, as well as the most powerful strongholds built for war were there.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:44 pm

Kashluk wrote:It's funny that Augustus went all "learn your history, punk!" on Vasikka, even though Finland

1. he doesn't know who's from where here at DAC 2.since when do you care so much what SDFs write

we actually managed to stay independent during WW2, facing the same damn odds

o rly?

frissy wrote: Poland is seeking bigger influence in EU due to them being assfucked in WW2...

what? you've been smoking? Our present government is fucked up, but AFAIK they did not come up with such a brilliant idea.. Or point me to appropriate source.

Augustus wrote: The book I was talking about isn't actually polish, if you want to know. It's authors are american.

he was talking to that Finnish dude, Kashluk, see?

oh btw the 'super poland' part is the lol

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:47 pm

PiP wrote:
frissy wrote: Poland is seeking bigger influence in EU due to them being assfucked in WW2...
what? you've been smoking? Our present government is fucked up, but AFAIK they didn't come up with such a brilliant idea.. Or point me to appropriate source.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6229028.stm

Nevertheless, there was alarm in some quarters after the Polish president said the reason his country did not have a larger population - and therefore greater voting power - was that so many Poles were killed by Germans in World War II.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:49 pm

whatever he really said (and for whatever reasons, sometimes pure spite maybe) it's now all about how much voting power can you get from the present population. uhh whatever

Kashluk · Post by **Kashluk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:51 pm

How much voting power can you get from the present population = Poland is seeking bigger influence in EU due to them being assfucked in WW2.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:49 pm

oh btw the 'super poland' part is the lol

Oh yes it is, and there will be more of that

The Pearl (or Republic of Bourgeoisie) is a fraction of nationalistic, fanatic rasists and freeks caling themselves 'patriots' (you can consider it as self irony

) which propaganda is everywhere, and which primary goal is to slay all the mutation, and achieve world domination by creating new Republic of Poland.

It is of course not our (AF team) propaganda, but this text shows propoganda of fictional fraction, targeted at fictional society in the world with alternative history

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:53 pm

So basically one pole is at least two poles...or three, dunno how many poles there "would be" if they haven't gotten assfucked in ww2.

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:12 pm

So basically one pole is at least two poles...or three, dunno how many poles there "would be" if they haven't gotten assfucked in ww2.

phatethic...

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:46 pm

It is, but that's what they are thinking of.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:00 pm

you all need to shut the fuck up swell guy. seriously.

Cthulhugoat · Post by **Cthulhugoat** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:25 pm

Phatetic. Get it? Phat-tetic! :dinosaur:

frissy · Post by **frissy** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:34 pm

Who ya calling a brother ya polish cunt! Go eat some cabbage or something.