The Firearms Thread

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:29 am

I always liked the name StG 44 better than MP44 because Sturmguver (hope I spelled that right) shows that the weapon was the totally new step in firearms design that it was and MP meaning machine pistol almost seems like an insult to the rifle. The Kalashnikov is a much better rifle than the StG 44 though as it took all the good of the StG and improved upon it. Better round, easier selector switch and more easily mass produced. I have a Romanian AK that I just love to go out and shoot. It performs better than the M16A2 that I had in the army and with the right ammo you can knock just about anything down with one shot. I like my Mosin-Nagant too, oh hell I just love Russian designed weapons!

Goretheglowingone · Post by **Goretheglowingone** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:34 am

most Russian firearms are inventive, Russians are fucking whacked, and there fore good inventors.

johnnygothisgun · Post by **johnnygothisgun** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:36 am

on the run with a handgun blast bioforms
i am warned
that a planet wide manhunt with cannons will me abandon
my foolish plan
of uprisin
fuck dyin i hijack a mech

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:20 am

Goretheglowingone wrote:all guns are not updates of other guns, , the h&K g11 ISINT, the nagant revolver isn't, the lemat isn't , the S&W 50. is but the Taurus raging bull isint, the star 9mm isn't, the sig 9mm with he built in baffle silencer isn't, the spas 12 isn't, the xm-26 isn't, the dardic revolver isn't, those are all revolutionary guns , not updates or redux.

You listed 4 revolvers, which can all trace their lineage back to the first revolver, a Snaphaunce type made in the late 1600's. Yes all revolvers are an update of that one since they retain the rotating chambers and a single fixed barrel. The advent of cap and ball types was an update, as was the ability to use cartriges. The nagant, as good of an assassination weapon as it is, only had the cylinder/barrel sealing system unique to it. The lemat just had a smoothbore barrel that the cylinder spun on, the raging bull IS JUST A REVOLVER that shoots 454 casull. The SPAS 12 just added a gas system and a few nifty features like the magazine cutoff to a regular pump action.

The only truly original weapons you listed were the G11 and The dardick (which was a poor design).

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:08 pm

All guns can be tracked back to the flintlock pistol, and the hand-cannon and harquebus.
Add 500 years, and whammo, modern assault rifle.

If it uses gunpowder, a bullet or pellets, and is fired by pulling a trigger, it is a direct descendant of the harquebus. :History:

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:11 pm

crossbow fo lyfe yo

TNP · Post by **TNP** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:26 pm

Thor Kaufman wrote:crossbow fo lyfe yo

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:43 pm

Impressive. Now do a full scale NÃ¼rnberg.

fallout ranger · Post by **fallout ranger** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:02 am

Thor Kaufman wrote:crossbow fo lyfe yo

I've got a barnett RC-150. It's pretty great, but alas, not a firearm.

Khan Noonien Singh · Post by **Khan Noonien Singh** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:48 am

Superhaze wrote:All guns can be tracked back to the flintlock pistol, and the hand-cannon and harquebus.
Add 500 years, and whammo, modern assault rifle.

If it uses gunpowder, a bullet or pellets, and is fired by pulling a trigger, it is a direct descendant of the harquebus. :History:

I see you have mastered the use of Wikipedia. Such a shame it was not made available in my timeline until much later.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:23 am

Newest addition to my collection.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:42 am

now you can be all Connery like and shoot some terrorists

the "new" Bond weapon is a P99 I think or is the new Bond using a Sony model now?

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:12 am

fallout ranger wrote: italian kentucky

what

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:00 pm

Thor Kaufman wrote:the "new" Bond weapon is a P99 I think or is the new Bond using a Sony model now?

It shoots corrosive octopus ink and works as an automobile remote as well.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:57 pm

Thor Kaufman wrote:the "new" Bond weapon is a P99 I think or is the new Bond using a Sony model now?

Walther P99, but I think it shoots acidic laser beams now.

Aonaran · Post by **Aonaran** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:37 am

Wolfman Walt wrote:

Newest addition to my collection.

Jam on you yet?

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:03 am

What, are you and Airsoftguy in cahoots!?

ApTyp · Post by **ApTyp** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:19 am

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:23 am

It's just a conceal carry weapon, my revolvers are abit too big for me to conceal comfortably. Went through 200 rounds with it today - not a single jam.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:18 pm

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/arc ... 45672.html

do not down dac. it is not a good taste