Philip K Dick's Short Science Fiction.

UniversalLogic34 · Post by **UniversalLogic34** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:11 am

You know... I am a big PKD fan, and i just read a bunch of stories this weekend... some of the stories really have some prime time classic fallout flavour. one of his favorite subjects was war. often with a stalemate type of irony.

I'm expecting that F3 will continue the trend.

Second Variety
Auto-Fac
The Gun
The Defenders

I wish i could somehow probe that the fallout storyline is a rip off of that last story. it reminds me of the "regulators" in the boneyard (Adytum/post nuke LA) from fallout 1. however, a few details were changed. but everyone lives in a vault and is afraid of the outside radiation.

If it's just a coincidence, well its a strange one then... But phil's writing and life is connected with overlapping coincidences and synchronicites so...

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Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:31 pm

it has come to my attention over the years that philip k dick and fallout are as entwined as god and church or bread and sandwiches. philip is one of the last true masters of science fiction and fallout is therefore his bastard child! FALLOUT IS A RIPOFF OF SCANNERS DARKLY!

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:08 pm

Fallout has many inspirations...and it would amaze me if he was not one of them.

cazsim83 · Post by **cazsim83** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:15 pm

Megatron wrote:it has come to my attention over the years that philip k dick and fallout are as entwined as god and church or bread and sandwiches. philip is one of the last true masters of science fiction and fallout is therefore his bastard child! FALLOUT IS A RIPOFF OF SCANNERS DARKLY!

Fallout is a ripoff of a lot of shit. Wasteland, Mad Max, pop culture, etc etc etc etc etc - yay for successful ripoffs!

sarge112 · Post by **sarge112** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:26 am

'Tis true.

Warhammer: one of the most popular tabletop games.

..obviously not a rip off </sarcasm>

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:36 am

Megatron wrote:it has come to my attention over the years that philip k dick and fallout are as entwined as god and church or bread and sandwiches. philip is one of the last true masters of science fiction and fallout is therefore his bastard child! FALLOUT IS A RIPOFF OF SCANNERS DARKLY!

A Scanner Darkly is an FPS! Treason!

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:14 pm

more like an hero
the film is shit

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:23 pm

Thor Kaufman wrote:the film is shit

Yeah, there's roughly a 30 % chance a P.K.D novel made into film turns out good. A Scanner Darkly belongs to that other 70 %. Rotoscoping hardly made it any better, if at all.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:32 pm

I kinda want to check out more of P.K. Dick's books, but Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and The Man in the High Castle both had the crappiest non endings I've read in years. It's like any moment the story could just end. Do Androids... was a little better, but I'll be damned if he didn't just quit halfway through Castle. Both awesome worlds and stories that don't go anywhere. Or they ended and continued on for too long.

UniversalLogic34 · Post by **UniversalLogic34** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:12 am

VasikkA wrote:
Thor Kaufman wrote:the film is shit
Yeah, there's roughly a 30 % chance a P.K.D novel made into film turns out good.

you know what, thats a really good number that i contend to agree with, lets count the figures:

blade runner - good! (100%)

total recall - mostly (33%) not good

screamers alright (66%) 90's fare...

imposter - did i miss (0%) something?

minority report - not bad (66%)

paycheck - vomit (0%)

scanner darkly - foulness! (33%)

next - gross... (33%)

Average rating = 41.6%

UniversalLogic34 · Post by **UniversalLogic34** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:44 am

alright i just read a new story... THE VARIABLE MAN... it screams fallout so much that you can actually get flashbacks of the glow as you see the H bombs fall into and expose the vaults... in fact, i think there are several references to fallout in this story. mainly the sierra army depot. We have, in this story alone:

- security commision Dixon (a refernece to the "dixon's eye"?)
- SRB analysis Machine (sounds a bit like the chess machine, but its just a powerful computer really, that prints out math ratios)
- lots of plasma weapons
- lots of rotor/tread gunbots guarding the place
- the main character, a "jack of all trades" who escapes his foes by his many skills, including repairing a "intersystem-vidsender" for a young boy in a town (smells like the pip-boy 2000) and getting out of his cell when the power is cut through use of electronic lockpicking...
- lots of "vault city" type architecture, including amentities "A" and "B" plus a city council! oh my!
- takes place in post nuke NY state
- renegade scientist/physicist types working on crazy high end weapons for our hero to happen upon and perfect with his ingenius abilities!

conclusion: Bethesda needs to "hit the books", and steal the "dead" man's ideas.

Ideas will live on, whereas dreams might die...

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:03 pm

C'mon guys...a scanner darkly was at least faithful to the book for the most part.

sure, you get quite a bit of missing introspection and some of the central ideas about identity, and as usual the religious implications are missing,

BUT AT LEAST IT DIDN'T CUT OUT ABOUT HALF THE FUCKING STORY OR IDEAS LIKE IN BLADE RUNNER.

edhead · Post by **edhead** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:13 pm

I liked A Scanner Darkly.

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