Duck and Cover

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:11 am

Subhuman isn't really gay but he sure likes trolling.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:02 am

buy some real drugs...

real drugs come in a little clear plastic bag, ready for consumption, and are bought by a black guy with a fro.

Megatron · Post by **Megatron** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:32 am

i dont think any of us are black, though im sure one of us has an afro

i dont see how dextramethamphemorphomong isnt a 'real' drug. itd be like saying salvia isnt a real drug because its legal, lo,l.

http://erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health2.shtml

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Wed May 07, 2008 3:33 pm

DXM is as "real" as anything else. Fuck, it sure as hell screws you up more than the dimes you pick up off your black guy with a 'fro.

As for bumping, for me it was a practice reserved for MDMA mostly. Generally lead to longer peaks and more intense rolls so I reccomend it heartily. If you're too much of a pussy to tell your friends you are about to go bump a pill then you haven't done enough E with them yet.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:10 pm

I dunno, E doesn't really work for me but maybe I just didn't take enough, or whatever. Give me LSD over E, anytime.

I take it you used mdma powder and not just stomped pills, right? Anyway, E is comparably cheap so I'd probably reserve such practices for stuff like Heroin if I'd ever get into that. But even then I'd probably rather snort or smoke that chit.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:57 pm

Im saying there are probably proper drugs you dont have to extract from all sorts of weed household suplies. if its like ketamine, buy ketamine. If its like amfetamines, buy amfetamines.

All I'm saying is that junkies prefer heroin to Buprenorfin because its the real deal. the bees knees, the cats pyjama etc.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:00 pm

Yeah, for a while I had access to some awesome pure shit we would pack into a gelcap and bump. It would set in uncomfortably fast (just the way I like it) and last a good bit longer/be more intense. Do not recommend if you are going to take it up the bum later but I don't think thats on your priority list.

I've been an E tard for a long time though, you should try larger doses up to a gram or so. The roll will kick your ass and get your girl wetter than the sea. Makes for a good time if you take a Viagra or if you are one of the blessed people who can get it up reliably on the stuff.

Superhaze wrote:Im saying there are probably proper drugs you dont have to extract from all sorts of weed household suplies. if its like ketamine, buy ketamine. If its like amfetamines, buy amfetamines.

All I'm saying is that junkies prefer heroin to Buprenorfin because its the real deal. the bees knees, the cats pyjama etc.

I go through my monthly persrciption for amphetamines a few days after I get it.

only get 60x20mg pills. Ketamine seems to be impossible for me to score in Seattle, maybe I should hit up some more candy raves and shit or make friends with a vet.

The point is desperation. You just can't always get the stuff you need exactly. DXM is different though, some of my friends would rather do that than shrooms/acid/whatever. Its got some massive potential. I'd still take 2c-x over just about anything though.

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:32 pm

You can make LSD and DXM in the lab, but you add all kinds of nice poisonous shit that you cannot really get rid of. Rather get hold of the plant that produces the compound, find out it's solubility and then either do a water or an ether extraction on it. Safer that way. Plus they cut most drugs with all kinds of nasty shit, pure cocaine is not actually that bad for you, it is all the other crap they add to it that kills your ass.

I actually don't know very much about production of drugs, if you show me the chemical structure i might be able to produce some, i work with enzymes more often than not.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:50 pm

Production of anything more complicated than meth is beyond me, so basically no free E or 2c-x for me. Also the equipment is unavailable.

I've heard an ether extraction is superior in the case of DXM.

4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (C10H14NBrO2)

Make plz.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:25 pm

from what i understand dxm, by quantity, is somehwere between ketamine and pcp on the dissasociative scale. Anyone who says its not a real drug just hasn't tried enough...

oh and cloud, you'd be surprised...while i'm no longer in the drug scene up here....there are a few people who always have rarities like ketamine/dmt/peyote/etc. Funny...didn't realize anyone on here was also in seattle.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:28 pm

Me, Jetbaby, Airsoftguy, you. There are a few more in the area. Me and Jet are actually in Tacoma.

I've met people who had Ketamine in the past but at the time I didn't want it. Now when I actually do I can't find any but that is mostly due to my disassociating from some more "undesirable" folk that I used to get a good majority of my drugs from. Much as I dislike it I'll have to go to a few raves and meet some new people if I want anything exotic.

Caleb wrote:from what i understand dxm, by quantity, is somehwere between ketamine and pcp on the dissasociative scale. Anyone who says its not a real drug just hasn't tried enough...

This. I'd have to draw a non-comparable line between PCP and Ketamine though as in my experience one completely incapacitates you where as on PCP you are very much capable of doing things even if you aren't interacting with the real world in your head.

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:43 pm

How the fuck is anyone exept a scientist supposed to make LSD? It is waaaaay beyond what most people are capable of making. And crushing morning glory seeds, or hawaiian woodrose doesnt count.

And I sort of get why you would make DXM if you really dont know any dealers who get enough exotic shit. i've never really had use for anything exept coke, weed, some E's now and again, and the odd acid trip, so I cant really put myself in your trippy dancing shoes. If its possible to get in a pure, ready for consumption way, I might give it a shot though.

Not a big fan of amfetamines, so if its like meth or speed i'm gonna have an opt-out clause.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:39 am

Superhaze wrote: Not a big fan of amfetamines, so if its like meth or speed i'm gonna have an opt-out clause.

low dosages are very numbing, relaxing, though greatly enhancing of music and things around you. my most attached memory was listening to climbatize by prodigy and reading neuromancer, definitely fits with it. on higher doses you trip out of you fucking mind.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:27 am

I'm an absolute amphetamine fiend. If I have one serious addiction, its that. They make EVERYTHING better. You look great from a little weight loss, you get things done, you feel awesome and you've never heard music sound so good. I also don't have a lot of time in my day for sleep so we get along well.

However I've got to admit even a little binge leaves me feeling fucking horrible. Chest pains, difficulty breathing, depression, serious cravings, and a pounding headache.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:30 am

CloudNineGT wrote:Chest pains, difficulty breathing, depression, serious cravings, and a pounding headache.

Why i quit: speed, opiates, dxm, then pot. each tended to give me that after a while. Just take it easy for a while or find a new fix...tends to help it seems.

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:10 am

careful, careful (bad effect/toxicity threshold).

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:58 am

mgjgas

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:25 pm

CloudNineGT wrote:Production of anything more complicated than meth is beyond me, so basically no free E or 2c-x for me. Also the equipment is unavailable.

I've heard an ether extraction is superior in the case of DXM.

4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (C10H14NBrO2)

Make plz.

OMF. I think that one is a bit beyond me, i cant exactly get hold of the stuff i would need. Also, prison sucks.

CloudNineGT · Post by **CloudNineGT** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:22 pm

Superhaze wrote:I dont really see the rap community as a shining beacon of enlightenment, so I wont base my drug use on whatever those blinged out homies are downing in their escalades.

So are you saying that there is a particular community of drug users you find to be intelligent, well informed, and enlightened? Face it, if you use drugs you are stupid. The black drug using community is no different than any other.

So what is difficult about 2c-b? Try to be simple, I'm no chemist. Is it harder to make than meth?

C10H15N

Superhaze · Post by **Superhaze** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:04 am

Come on.. are you saying Burroughs, Arthur Conan Doyle, Sigmund Freud, Ernest Hemingway, Picasso, Jean-Paul Sartre and Hunter S. Thompson are all stupid people? Its not using drugs that make you stupid, its what you decide to do while on drugs.

And I dont find any community to be well informed and enlightened, it was merely something I wrote because it was a ridiculus way of making DXM seem like a nice and popular drug. If the hip-hop community uses it, why not you? See.. ? The hip-hop community, like any other community with druggies will sniff benzine in a plastic bag if it gets you high. Ridiculus and retarded argument.