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Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:01 am

Installed it yesterday, good fun.

I chose the vanguard, I think.. arms/psyche path.

What can you do with the engineering path/abilities?

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:28 pm

overload/sabotage are pretty over-powered. you can either fuck with their shields completely or over heat weapons and get them locked out for a while. both work pretty well and will get you through the game fairly easily.

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:02 pm

Basically the engineer is precision designed to RAPE GETH. You destroy their shields and then you stop their guns from working, then just in case they might not have already been proper fucked you can hack them and turn them on one another, oh and you can only use pistols, but pistols are specially designed to rape once you get the special spectre one and put 2 extended rails on it.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:31 pm

I wish I'd taken that path. So far Biotech or whatever they call it, doesn't open up a lot of options.
I was hoping for some more dialogue options, like combined with intimidate that you could hang someone over an edge or the like..

POOPERSCOOPER · Post by **POOPERSCOOPER** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:50 pm

I don't think your class affects dialogue options, perhaps maybe once or twice but I don't remember any.

SenisterDenister · Post by **SenisterDenister** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:26 pm

Your class doesn't, but your Renegade and Paragon points can, even though they can get you the same results.

I like to play as an Infiltrator with the Assault Rifle talent added, 'cause that way you not only get some of the benefits of the Engineer, but also combat bonuses of the soldier.

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:28 pm

AFAIK only your paragon/renegade status influences dialogue options, as these scores go up you get more slots open for intimidate and charm to put points into.

Killzig · Post by **Killzig** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:56 pm

the differences in paragon/renegade aren't that big. the words you say are highlighted in red and then you end up fighting the foozle anyways. the biotic skill tree isn't too bad... singularity + lift will clear out pretty much everything. all of the spectre class weapons turn the game into easy mode.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:27 pm

I noticed some engineering options on the ice-planet, first base, and not as much dialogue, but still it's a different approach... to something

Should've said that as well.

Maybe I can throw some stuff around to make a difference later.

wont be too dissapointed if I can't, it seems like a nice game to me. I feel content, for once, in a long time.

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:24 am

It is quite good, but it is rather linear, your choices during the game don't really seem to make such a big difference. Even if you always take the renegade dialogue option you are still a good guy considering you are saving the galaxy.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:30 am

You don't have to be evil just because you cut corners and wont take bullshit answers.

I see Renegade as the cowboy diplomacy way, and paragon as the goody two-shoes one, reserved for the suits on citadel.

I'll be damned if I ever turn over my weapons to some dyke just 'cause that's how they do things there.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:14 pm

So the only role-playing element is the way your character talks?

entertainer · Post by **entertainer** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:22 pm

Every time new bioware game comes out it has less role playing and more of dumbing down.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:12 pm

Well, engineering definately opens some options for you.

I keep getting blocked because I don't have it...
God damn biotech is worthless.

rabidpeanut · Post by **rabidpeanut** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:04 pm

entertainer wrote:Every time new bioware game comes out it has less role playing and more of dumbing down.

very true, that is why i hate jade empire so fucking much. the sci fi in this lured me back i dont think i will come back after the 3rd mass effect.

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:35 pm

Another example of dumbing down is the highlighting of dialogue options(charm/intimidate). That pissed me off in Bloodlines, as well. There's also no 'traps' in dialogue so you might as well just click through all dialogue lines without reading them and occasionally click a colored line for desired effect. All else is just yadayada. Gone are the days of PS:T, BG and Fallout when you actually had to think beforehand what you'll say. Gone are the days when you actually had to TAKE FUCKING NOTES when playing a CRPG.

Only dumb fucking kiddies couldn't play CRPGs, because they were too stupid to follow clues. The same dumb fucking kiddies make computer RPGs nowadays.

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:24 am

Which reminds me of Lynette from Vault City....
Much time have I spent angering her, because her responses seem totally random.

Thor Kaufman · Post by **Thor Kaufman** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:09 pm

Fallout had the Empathy perk though

Smiley · Post by **Smiley** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:00 pm

yeah but that didn't add options, it just made it easier for you.

SenisterDenister · Post by **SenisterDenister** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:06 pm

On an off note I bought World in Conflict, and its pretty damn fun. I'm about half-way through the campaign and my multiplayer name is Saratoga, if anyone is interested in playing.