Fallout 3: Your thoughts

VasikkA · Post by **VasikkA** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:52 pm

I'm playing it drunk as we speak and its really not that horriblle.

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:37 am

I do hope the real FO community gets on modding.

Dreadnought · Post by **Dreadnought** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:51 am

VasikkA wrote:I'm playing it drunk as we speak and its really not that horriblle.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but then you wake up in the morning, hungover, and think "OH FUCK, WHAT HAVE I DONE?!".

S4ur0n27 · Post by **S4ur0n27** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:57 am

fuckshit, i downloaded the russian version

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:20 am

S4ur0n27 wrote:fuckshit, i downloaded the russian version

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:03 am

Game is alot shorter than I thought it would be. I rented it on Wednesday and I'm already at the end without particularly paying attention to the main quest.

Subhuman · Post by **Subhuman** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:05 am

I was talking to two guys at work today who'd bought FO3 for 360. Neither of them had ever heard of or played the first two. And they're my age. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Guy 1: "So what system are they for?"
Me: "PC."
Guy 1: "Ah, that's why I've never played them. I'm a console man."
Me: "Yeah, me too mostly, but...come on. Really? You'd never even heard of Fallout before this?"
Guy 1: "Nope."
Me: "..."

I mean, really.

Stainless · Post by **Stainless** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:16 am

It's not that surprising. Just from looking at the bethsoft Fo3 forum when it originally opened showed just how many people had never heard of it before.

Just spent the last couple of hours playing it, no crashes and entertaining. As a stand alone post-apoc game its ok. As a Fallout game, I really struggle to see the resemblance.

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:49 am

I rented it and have been playing the day away. It's actually kinda enjoyable as a game itself, thanks mostly to the environment and design done in the previous games. It is also somewhat heartwarming to see familiar bits, like seeing a dying radscorpion curl up in that familiar way.

I found the secret alien blaster on the edge of the map. Its a clone of the alien ship random encounter, but without Elvis paintings. You pick up alien distress beacon on your radio. Not many of the characters or locations have really stuck with me though.

Redeye · Post by **Redeye** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:50 am

Has anyone found the mudcrabs yet?

Post by **Dogmeatlives** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:55 am

Nope. As an FPS it blows balls. Anyone who bought it for that bit will be disappointed.

I have to admit it is somewhat enjoyable, but there were times while I was playing that I longed badly for a 3rd person turn-based game. This game is too up close and personal. I don't see Fallout that way.

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:12 am

Subhuman wrote:I was talking to two guys at work today who'd bought FO3 for 360. Neither of them had ever heard of or played the first two. And they're my age. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Guy 1: "So what system are they for?"
Me: "PC."
Guy 1: "Ah, that's why I've never played them. I'm a console man."
Me: "Yeah, me too mostly, but...come on. Really? You'd never even heard of Fallout before this?"
Guy 1: "Nope."
Me: "..."

I mean, really.

so did you get an official 'nerd' badge for this?

Dogmeatlives wrote: there were times while I was playing that I longed badly for a 3rd person turn-based game. This game is too up close and personal. I don't see Fallout that way.

well this can be seen as an advantage. I'm not saying you should see it as an advantage tho.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:06 am

Redeye wrote:Has anyone found the mudcrabs yet?

Yea. They're all over the place provided you're near water.

MadBill · Post by **MadBill** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:10 pm

Wolfman Walt wrote:
Redeye wrote:Has anyone found the mudcrabs yet?
Yea. They're all over the place provided you're near water.

There is also a quest to go get raped by them.

ExtremeDrinker · Post by **ExtremeDrinker** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:55 pm

I've yet to download, rent, or purchase. I'm still too torn up about that lame duck Spore to even think about another game...even Oblivion 2...Ehrm...Fallout 3.

maddmaxx · Post by **maddmaxx** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:33 pm

It fun and still has that Fallout flavor..
it does have lots of little details to do if you want and the interface takes some time to get use to.
I would say were are going to get FanBoys that hate it and others that love it. But that normal with anything that has a history now a days. So if you hate it go mod it and stop wining. That's what Fallout players do make the game they want.

Nofu · Post by **Nofu** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:39 pm

Well, Iâ€™ve been waiting on a sequel for a long time. I guess some people would say Iâ€™ll have to keep waiting, but for whatever theyâ€™re worth hereâ€™s some things off the top of my head:

The Good:

1. Killing town-dwelling people. Doesnâ€™t seem to turn the whole damn place hostile, although I admit I havenâ€™t tried it very often. To me this was a big flaw in the original games, so nice improvement here.

2. Deterioration of weapons and armour, ability to create your own items if you have the schematics, components etc. More nice additions I thought.

3. Fully realized game environment. I could appreciate this from Morrowind, and Gothic still is one of my favourite RPGs, so I canâ€™t help but admire the gaming environment here, shame there doesnâ€˜t seem to be half as many plots, subplots, characters etc. going on beneath it and the â€œcharacterisationâ€� (I guess) of the NPCs is poor imo.

The Bad:

1. Sanitized, stylized wasteland. With a bit of a wash, every human Iâ€™ve met aside from old people look very well turned out, eat clean, work out regularly etc. Same goes for the violence - slow-mo airborne heads and appendages seems like heavily stylized Hollywood stuff.

2. Dialogue. Yes, dialogue. I only played Morrowind, where NPCs were basically signposts - you chose a topic and got a generic but quite informative paragraph. Now you choose whether you want a stock aggressive, friendly or in-between turn of phrase, and in taking jobs you pretty much either ask for payment or more information. Nothing develops into a witty dialogue tree here. Nothing. This formula rinses and repeats too often, with too little variation. Characterisation was crap. The best dialogue thus far is from the radio, even that doesnâ€™t touch the originals.

3. Game mechanics. My choice of armour seems to have been reduced to a question of damage resistance, itâ€™s been ages since Iâ€™ve played the originals but I can remember a lot more to be taken into consideration when looking at armour. There seems to be only one type of ammo per gun, although the originals pretty much only had regular and AP as far as I remember. Also, F3 has very little variations on the guns, though I freely admit in the originals I tended to stick to I guess a few guns anyway. Also, basically preferred the original turn-based system, so I was always going to have complaints about game mechanics.

General vague impressions:

Donâ€™t know the coding of the original games, or anything about programming at all, but I canâ€™t help but feel my stats donâ€™t interact as much here and there isnâ€™t as much â€œgoing onâ€� on my character sheet or within the game-world I guess. I could be wrong, just the impression I get.

Also, for some reason the locations I stumble across feel like hack-and-slash grind-em-up exp-mills. Why is this, I donâ€™t know. For some reason I donâ€™t really much give a shit what secrets might be found in these places, maybe this is because they havenâ€™t been introduced properly via townsfolk telling you scary things about them or something, but I just donâ€™t really care. So far most/all feel like the rat caves under Klamath, which is still the one time I can clearly remember in the originals where I felt like I was mind-numblingly dungeon-crawling and harvesting exp, that, and, to a lesser extent the Wannamingo mine. Oh yeah, and the San-francisco tanker, maybe, I guess. Even then I think I was intrigued by the presence of vault doors or something. So far in F-3 the only â€œdungeonâ€� I found interesting was venturing to the source of the fireants.

Wolfman Walt · Post by **Wolfman Walt** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:57 pm

maddmaxx wrote:So if you hate it go mod it and stop wining.

AKA Do the developers work for them!

PiP · Post by **PiP** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:20 pm

ExtremeDrinker wrote:I'm still too torn up about that lame duck Spore

meaning?

Nofu wrote:stuff

gosh we've got an SDF who's first post you can read

Nofu · Post by **Nofu** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:47 pm

PiP wrote:
ExtremeDrinker wrote:I'm still too torn up about that lame duck Spore
meaning?
Nofu wrote:stuff
gosh we've got an SDF who's first post you can read

Well, a surprise for me too, since here was me thinking nobody would read it. Might be just a franchise cash-in, but after the long wait I really just have to compulsively spew opinions.