
2012 - the end is nigh
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLWolfman Walt wrote:This asshole made the 98 Godzilla flick.
I didn't know who that was, but I'm glad that he has been named.
Fans of Godzilla (not excluding myself) were so pissed with that movie that they entitled the Godzilla variant in the movie as "GINO", or "Godzilla-In-Name-Only."
I suppose that, in that logic, Fallout: BOS, what we all revile so much, could be hereafter known as "FINO." If you wanted to be technical, you could call it "FOINO", but that sounds like something stupid that evades your grasp (Which, might not be a bad summary for FO:BOS).
Like "dust bunnies", or a "slinky."
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Wow, you are so clever.Manoil wrote:I actually have a friend who believes that the world ends in 2012. And I made a wager with him, too: If the world faces unquestionable annihalation anywhere from January 1st, 2012 to December 31st, 2012, he wins. If it doesn't, I win.
100 bucks.
If I'm right, I get 100 bucks for no apparent reason.
If he's right... what the fuck would you use 100 bucks for?
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I knoes, I knoesFrater Perdurabo wrote:Wow, you are so clever.Manoil wrote:I actually have a friend who believes that the world ends in 2012. And I made a wager with him, too: If the world faces unquestionable annihalation anywhere from January 1st, 2012 to December 31st, 2012, he wins. If it doesn't, I win.
100 bucks.
If I'm right, I get 100 bucks for no apparent reason.
If he's right... what the fuck would you use 100 bucks for?
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2012 like y2k but more annoying because everyone has the internet

But i like the idea of novelty theory and singularitys and all that jazz. the idea of an apocalypse through a meteor is boring as theres pretty much no chance of survival or prevention. its like watching a movie for 3 hours and the main character dies a few minutes towards the end of an aneurysm or something

But i like the idea of novelty theory and singularitys and all that jazz. the idea of an apocalypse through a meteor is boring as theres pretty much no chance of survival or prevention. its like watching a movie for 3 hours and the main character dies a few minutes towards the end of an aneurysm or something

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So how is this movie going to work? Generally with the end of the world movies the people try and do something to stop whats coming but this one looks like it can't be stopped so you best run yo.
edit: After looking at the trailer I guess they built special ships so they are doing something.
edit: After looking at the trailer I guess they built special ships so they are doing something.
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I loved the ending in Independence Day. Writing a computer virus that somehow would work on a completely different, even alien, computer language using windows 95 and a 100 lines of Basic to take out shitty prop spaceship, after a story-devoid amount of time of watching Will Smith prove that no alien in the galaxy is a match for a coloured genetleman from the tough streets of Philly.
I wonder if they pull the same shit in this movie. Will Smith spewing one liners whilst baseball batting meteors back to space whilst riding a surf board along the flood waves. "Home run muhfuckah!"
Between that, and Lucas & Speilberg thinking a fridge would protect Indianna Jones from a nuclear blast, I'm glad most of the movies I watch are pornos. I'd rather watch a confused looking teen feeling guilty, ashamed and regretful whilst taking one in the can from a mexican, than feel those things myself watching more Hollywood toilet content.
I wonder if they pull the same shit in this movie. Will Smith spewing one liners whilst baseball batting meteors back to space whilst riding a surf board along the flood waves. "Home run muhfuckah!"
Between that, and Lucas & Speilberg thinking a fridge would protect Indianna Jones from a nuclear blast, I'm glad most of the movies I watch are pornos. I'd rather watch a confused looking teen feeling guilty, ashamed and regretful whilst taking one in the can from a mexican, than feel those things myself watching more Hollywood toilet content.
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Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.
Or is it?
Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."
It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.
At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.
"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."
Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan, ideas.
A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.
But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel that mixes predictions from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"
It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades - the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or Planet X. But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.
One of them is Monument Six.
Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.
It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.
However - shades of Indiana Jones - erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.
Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."
Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 - including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.
And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.
"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."
The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D., had a talent for astronomy
Its Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.
"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."
Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."
If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.
But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.
That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.
Another spooky coincidence?
"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.
"They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they can to fit that date of 2012," Plait said.
But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins indicates the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great importance to it.
"If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of transformation and renewal," said Jenkins.
As the Internet gained popularity in the 1990s, so did word of the "fateful" date, and some began worrying about 2012 disasters the Mayas never dreamed of.
The idea apparently originates with a 19th century Frenchman, Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a priest-turned-archaeologist who got it from his study of ancient Mayan and Aztec texts.
However, I make no attempt to actually relate these to a shitty, upcoming movie.The inclination of Earth's orbit drifts up and down. Relative to its present orbit this drift has a period of about 70,000 years. Relative to the invariable plane it has a 100,000 year period. The invariable plane represents the angular momentum of the solar system, and is approximately the orbital plane of Jupiter.

However, this is lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis
I miss the good ol' USSA.