The Firearms Thread.

[fallout ranger]

Cannon has never been a slang term...

Similarly, pistols are not slang....

Way to take that MUCH too literally. I really wasn't trying to get into an anthropological linguistics discussion.


AR15=rifle, so AR15-stock=Pistol? And a glock with a stock counts as an SBR. Hmmmm. Seems like a pretty loose term, pistol, basically means any firearm without a stock, not a definite form, action type, caliber, barrel length, rate of fire....

A cannon is any piece of artillery that uses gunpowder or other usually explosive-based propellants to launch a projectile.

Same thing applies to the cannon thing, broad, loose, general. Though today, it has come to mean something other than the dictionary definition.

[Retlaw83]

The word "slang" can only be interpreted one way. If you attempted to use it in a way that wasn't literal, you failed.

Though judging from how you are, I wouldn't be shocked to learn you don't know the full definition of literal.

[Junktown Commando]

The word "slang" can only be interpreted one way. If you attempted to use it in a way that wasn't literal, you failed. Though judging from how you are, I wouldn't be shocked to learn you don't know the full definition of literal.

Way to beat a dead horse. ¿Have you broken the 2×4 yet?

Anyways, I have a small confession to make referencing the 5.56 Revolver.
I saw a video of it years ago on a right-wing survivalist website (CLINTON Era militia, with allegedly some neo-NAZI affiliations). The site was taken down when the owner was arrested (on highly debatable charges) and that was the last I’ve seen of it.
I was told the maker was a Briton, but that’s really as much as I know about it (other than as already detailed). If anyone does know anything else about it, I’d be appreciative.

[Retlaw83]

Making one statement on a newly developed topic is a dead horse? Have you learned the meaning of colloquial expressions yet?

[fallout ranger]

Though judging from how you are

And that is?


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Can you believe Big 5 wants 300 for Yugo Mausers now? Jeez.

[Wolfman Walt]

AR15=rifle, so AR15-stock=Pistol?

Negative, Ghost Rider. Pistol by definition is a weapon that is DESIGNED to be held and operated with one hand. An AR that just happens to lack a stock does not make it a pistol. It just makes it a rifle without a stock.

And a glock with a stock counts as an SBR.

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken. Just because you add a stock to a pistol does not make it a battle rifle. It's just a pistol with a stock, similar to your example above. Glocks weren't designed to be fired from the shoulder, just as an AR-15 was not designed to be fired with one hand. Modifying one to fit into the other doesn't simply change what one is, otherwise every designation for a weapon is slang as per your apperent definition as with enough time and money, almost any handheld weapon can be modified to a point that someone would go "HEY, IT'S ACTUALLY X."

Seems like a pretty loose term, pistol, basically means any firearm without a stock, not a definite form, action type, caliber, barrel length, rate of fire....Same thing applies to the cannon thing, broad, loose, general.

That's why it's a weapon classification. It's like saying "Naval Ship" is slang because it covers a large variety of types of ships based both on purpose and tonnage. Same applies for "Airplane." Every thing you mentioned in there is covered by subtypes of pistols.

But that's not the point and this brings us back to our original topic, which wasn't about cannons, but autocannons. Autocannon is specifically enough identified as being an automatic weapon that fires shells as oppossed to bullets. 20mm is considered the point where projectiles stop being bullets and start being shells.

[Blargh]

AUTOCANNONS !

[Kashluk]

But that's not the point and this brings us back to our original topic, which wasn't about cannons, but autocannons. Autocannon is specifically enough identified as being an automatic weapon that fires shells as oppossed to bullets. 20mm is considered the point where projectiles stop being bullets and start being shells.

Ach, yes! Of course! I totally forgot about the difference between projectiles! Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice--- fool me twice

[fallout ranger]

almost any handheld weapon can be modified to a point that someone would go "HEY, IT'S ACTUALLY X."

That's the point, that names are essentially meaningless.

20mm is considered the point where projectiles stop being bullets and start being shells.

But the 50 BMG Raufoss Mk 211 classifies as a shell...ahh forget all that.


This
...fine example of circumventing absurd firearms bans. Just wish it was in my price range

[Retlaw83]

That's the point, that names are essentially meaningless.

It's the opposite of the point, you gibbering retard.

[fallout ranger]

you gibbering retard.

Poor baby, you'll grow up one day.

[Retlaw83]

Comebacks are usually more impactful when they have some sort of relevancy to the original insult. Every post you create makes me wonder how someone so stupid can write full sentences.

[Junktown Commando]

But that's not the point and this brings us back to our original topic, which wasn't about cannons, but autocannons.

Actually it was about firearms. By the generally accepted definition, autocannons aren’t considered firearms (nor usually are machineguns).
I am curios about that .50 Cal upper receiver for the AR-15 pattern. ¿Where did you find that?

Poor baby, you'll grow up one day.

No, he won’t. Punks like that never do.

[Wolfman Walt]

machineguns & cannons

Machineguns are almost ALWAYS considered a firearm, unless they're so large they're not considered man portable. That means anything from a medium machine gun on down is considered a firearm. A firearm is a device which projects either single or multiple projectiles at high velocity through a controlled explosion. Infact, if you read U.S. law, a machine gun under Title 26 is: "... any firearm which shoots ... automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger"

[Retlaw83]

I wonder if Andy is a refugee from the 50s if he thinks punk is still an insult.

[Yonmanc]

I wonder if Andy is a refugee from the 50s if he thinks punk is still an insult.

Go suck a lemon.

[Junktown Commando]

Machineguns are almost ALWAYS considered a firearm, unless they're so large they're not considered man portable. That means anything from a medium machine gun on down is considered a firearm. A firearm is a device which projects either single or multiple projectiles at high velocity through a controlled explosion. Infact, if you read U.S. law, a machine gun under Title 26 is: "... any firearm which shoots ... automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger"

The law is one thing, but in the real word, to be a machinegun it has to be belt fed and automatically loading (gas or otherwise)- Otherwise it’s an automatic rifle/pistol/whatever. By the definition given under Title 26, an M-2 might not be a machinegun. (I’d like to see someone argue THAT in court- The last group that tried that argument burned themselves up.)
And ¿what the Hell do you need an auto cannon for anyways? Try hunting with one of those, and you’ve cleaned, skinned, and cooked the meat before you’re even sure you hit the damned thing… Of course, it won’t matter, because there won’t be enough meat to actually eat…

[ekkaman]

[Stalagmite]

AUTOCANNONS !

qfe

[Retlaw83]

And ¿what the Hell do you need an auto cannon for anyways? Try hunting with one of those, and you’ve cleaned, skinned, and cooked the meat before you’re even sure you hit the damned thing… Of course, it won’t matter, because there won’t be enough meat to actually eat…

Are you so fucking retarded that you think the primary application of an autocannon would be hunting, or any other type of civilian use? You'd think someone who claimed to be in the military would be able to tell civilian weapons apart from military-grade hardware.